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Re: Why isn't ether confirmed

From Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Why isn't ether confirmed
Date 2016-02-19 22:03 +1100
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On 19/02/2016 8:15 PM, Helmut Wabnig wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Feb 2016 01:02:05 -0800 (PST), mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote:
>
>> W dniu pi?tek, 19 lutego 2016 09:42:46 UTC+1 u?ytkownik Helmut Wabnig napisa?:
>>> On Thu, 18 Feb 2016 23:59:39 -0800 (PST), mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Not just one ether. There are infinite versions
>>>> of Lorentz's ether theory, differently placing
>>>> ether, and according to the logic above they are
>>>> all experimentally confirmed.
>>>
>>> Ether in physics is equivalent the HOLY SPIRIT of the Xtian churches.
>>> Nobody knows what it might be, why it is there and from whence it
>>
>> Unfortunately, according to logic quoted in the
>> first post of this thread, it's experimentally
>> confirmed. Don't you believe in the Holy Scientific
>> Method, poor idiot?
>>
>>> comes. It is omnipresent, penetrates everything but cannot be grasped.
>>> The HOLY SPIRIT is the most stupid invention of any religion ever.
>>>
>>> Now look at your ETHER.
>>
>> It's not my ether. It's Lorentz's.
>
> Experimentally confirmed? Where?
> Several other posters alredy asked that question.
> So I ask you again.
>

I think he's referring to the fact that both Lorentz ether theory and 
special relativity yield the same model - the Lorentz transformation. To 
his mind, a verification of the model is a verification of everything 
that lead up to it, and therefore any experiment that verifies the model 
also verifies the existence of the ether.

Sylvia.

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Why isn't ether confirmed mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-18 23:15 -0800
  Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-19 18:44 +1100
    Re: Why isn't ether confirmed mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-18 23:59 -0800
      Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Helmut Wabnig <hwabnig@.- --- -.dotat> - 2016-02-19 09:42 +0100
        Re: Why isn't ether confirmed mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-19 01:02 -0800
          Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Helmut Wabnig <hwabnig@.- --- -.dotat> - 2016-02-19 10:15 +0100
            Re: Why isn't ether confirmed mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-19 01:21 -0800
              Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Helmut Wabnig <hwabnig@.- --- -.dotat> - 2016-02-19 12:23 +0100
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-19 03:37 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-19 05:48 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-19 06:04 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-19 07:24 -0800
            Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-19 22:03 +1100
        Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Stzepan Zdrobněliny <stzepan282@guadalajara.org> - 2016-02-19 19:20 +0000
          Re: Why isn't ether confirmed benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 20:01 -0500
      Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-19 19:56 +1100
        Re: Why isn't ether confirmed mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-19 01:07 -0800
    Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 00:11 -0800
      Re: Why isn't ether confirmed benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 03:45 -0500
        Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 09:02 -0600
      Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 08:53 -0600
        Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 09:48 -0800
          Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-22 10:02 -0800
          Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 12:14 -0600
            Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 10:29 -0800
              Re: Why isn't ether confirmed David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-02-22 10:30 -0800
              Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 12:43 -0600
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 15:40 -0800
    Re: Why isn't ether confirmed benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 03:49 -0500
      Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-19 20:13 +1100
        Re: Why isn't ether confirmed kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-02-20 07:13 -0800
          Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 09:27 -0600
          Re: Why isn't ether confirmed wugi <brol@brol.be> - 2016-02-27 15:08 +0100
        Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 09:04 -0600
      Re: Why isn't ether confirmed kunz <gx@fp.cdfy.7h> - 2016-02-19 13:08 +0000
        Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-02-21 14:20 +0100
          Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-03-07 20:44 +0100
            Re: Why isn't ether confirmed François Theobaldus <fraop@sshimown.org> - 2016-03-07 21:24 +0000
        Re: Why isn't ether confirmed "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 14:37 -0500
      Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-02-19 09:40 -0600
        Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-19 17:13 +0100
        Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 09:14 -0600
          Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-02-24 09:44 -0600
            Re: Why isn't ether confirmed PC <pc468@hotmail.com> - 2016-02-24 16:50 +0000
            Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-26 08:38 -0600
      Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-02-20 11:11 +0100
    Re: Why isn't ether confirmed alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-19 14:16 -0800
      Re: Why isn't ether confirmed JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 15:15 -0800
        Re: Why isn't ether confirmed alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-20 07:49 -0800
          Re: Why isn't ether confirmed JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 22:08 -0800
            Re: Why isn't ether confirmed alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-21 09:09 -0800
              Re: Why isn't ether confirmed jamesl51165@gmail.com - 2016-02-21 09:37 -0800
      Re: Why isn't ether confirmed benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 20:00 -0500
        Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-02-20 18:28 -0600
        Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 09:18 -0600
      Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-02-20 18:11 -0600
        Re: Why isn't ether confirmed alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-21 09:07 -0800
          Re: Why isn't ether confirmed JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-02-21 10:37 -0800
            Re: Why isn't ether confirmed alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-21 11:30 -0800
              Re: Why isn't ether confirmed JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 15:18 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-23 12:33 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-02-23 12:54 -0800
          Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-23 15:27 +1100
            Re: Why isn't ether confirmed alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-23 12:21 -0800
              Re: Why isn't ether confirmed JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-02-23 13:07 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-23 23:11 +0100
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-02-23 14:18 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-24 08:10 +0100
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-24 09:00 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed PC <pc468@hotmail.com> - 2016-02-24 17:14 +0000
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-24 09:34 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed PC <pc468@hotmail.com> - 2016-02-24 22:10 +0000
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-25 23:22 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed PC <pc468@hotmail.com> - 2016-02-26 12:54 +0000
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-24 22:36 +0100
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-24 18:27 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-25 08:59 +0100
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-25 04:53 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-25 18:17 +0100
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed PC <pc468@hotmail.com> - 2016-02-25 17:43 +0000
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-25 10:55 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed PC <pc468@hotmail.com> - 2016-02-25 19:20 +0000
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-25 10:53 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-24 11:28 -0800
              Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-24 11:26 +1100
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-24 11:40 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-25 16:10 +1100
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-25 07:37 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-25 08:01 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-02-25 10:26 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-25 12:11 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-02-25 12:43 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Jon Price <jonelwoodprice@gmail.com> - 2016-02-25 13:15 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-25 22:21 +0100
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-25 15:51 -0600
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-02-25 20:07 -0600
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-02-25 18:36 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-02-25 20:33 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-25 23:31 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-26 09:12 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-02-27 12:08 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-27 22:50 +0100
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Jon Price <jonelwoodprice@gmail.com> - 2016-02-27 22:56 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-28 09:50 +0100
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-25 22:18 +0100
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed PC <pc468@hotmail.com> - 2016-02-25 21:45 +0000
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-25 16:56 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-02-25 20:45 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Jon Price <jonelwoodprice@gmail.com> - 2016-02-25 23:12 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-25 23:35 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Jon Price <jonelwoodprice@gmail.com> - 2016-02-26 00:03 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Jon Price <jonelwoodprice@gmail.com> - 2016-02-26 00:07 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-26 00:32 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-02-26 00:33 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-26 09:41 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-26 15:04 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-27 11:51 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-27 12:09 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-27 13:08 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-27 13:48 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-28 08:46 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-28 10:24 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-28 11:36 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-28 16:03 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-29 12:28 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-28 23:35 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 00:21 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-29 00:32 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-29 04:58 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-29 05:42 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-29 06:04 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-29 06:16 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-29 06:46 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Emigdio Sophronius <emigg@augustvisitors.org> - 2016-02-29 16:39 +0000
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 13:09 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 15:30 -0600
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-29 14:25 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 16:31 -0600
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 16:34 -0600
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 16:35 -0600
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 16:37 -0600
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-29 23:15 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-01 04:40 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-03-01 06:09 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-01 06:23 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 07:19 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-03-01 22:55 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 03:19 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-03-02 03:26 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 03:38 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-29 16:45 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-01 04:38 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed alsor@interia.pl - 2016-03-07 12:05 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-29 19:50 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-29 23:13 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-26 09:19 -0800
    Re: Why isn't ether confirmed kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-02-20 07:07 -0800
  Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-02-20 18:29 -0600
    Re: Why isn't ether confirmed David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-02-20 16:35 -0800
    Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-21 10:09 +0100
    Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-02-21 22:29 -0800
      Re: Why isn't ether confirmed "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-02-22 10:39 +0100
        Re: Why isn't ether confirmed mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-22 03:03 -0800
          Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-22 05:07 -0800
            Re: Why isn't ether confirmed mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-22 05:38 -0800
              Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-22 06:03 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-22 06:25 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-22 06:37 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-22 06:46 -0800
          Re: Why isn't ether confirmed JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 15:25 -0800
            Re: Why isn't ether confirmed mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-22 23:50 -0800
        Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 09:43 -0800
          Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Stzepan Zdrobněliny <stzepan282@guadalajara.org> - 2016-02-22 18:50 +0000
          Re: Why isn't ether confirmed "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-02-22 21:14 +0100
        Re: Why isn't ether confirmed alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-22 13:47 -0800
          Re: Why isn't ether confirmed "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-02-23 21:59 +0100
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