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Re: Enshittification

From Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de>
Newsgroups ger.ct
Subject Re: Enshittification
Date 2026-01-31 16:07 +0100
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Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> writes:

> Wenn die Frage ist, wie man aus so einem kleinen Tool und seinen Usern nach
> Jahren plötzlich Geld zieht, dann schon. Es gab ja auch mal diesen Public
> Domain Gedanken und die Open Software Lizenzen. 
>
> Ich hab auch nicht mit allem was ich tat versucht Geld zu verdienen.

Ich kann mich noch daran erinnern, dass die Weisheit "Wenn es nichts
kostet, bist du das Produkt" hier sehr propagiert wurde.

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Enshittification "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2026-01-31 08:28 +0100
  Re: Enshittification Rick Szabo <rickszabo@web.de> - 2026-01-31 08:03 +0000
    Re: Enshittification andreas quast <bu3ro.kratz@fr33n3t.de> - 2026-01-31 08:10 +0000
      Re: Enshittification Rick Szabo <rickszabo@web.de> - 2026-01-31 08:32 +0000
        Re: Enshittification andreas quast <bu3ro.kratz@fr33n3t.de> - 2026-01-31 08:51 +0000
  Re: Enshittification Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2026-01-31 09:28 +0100
    Re: Enshittification andreas quast <bu3ro.kratz@fr33n3t.de> - 2026-01-31 08:37 +0000
      Re: Enshittification Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2026-01-31 10:48 +0100
        Re: Enshittification Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2026-01-31 10:52 +0100
          Re: Enshittification Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2026-01-31 11:13 +0100
            Re: Enshittification Walter Brill <WalterBrill@t-online.de> - 2026-01-31 16:46 +0100
    Re: Enshittification Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2026-01-31 10:43 +0000
      Re: Enshittification Peter Veith <veith@snafu.de> - 2026-01-31 11:48 +0100
        Re: Enshittification Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2026-01-31 12:01 +0000
          Re: Enshittification Peter Veith <veith@snafu.de> - 2026-01-31 14:13 +0100
            Re: Enshittification Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2026-01-31 13:21 +0000
              Re: Enshittification Peter Veith <veith@snafu.de> - 2026-01-31 14:26 +0100
          Re: Enshittification Peter Veith <veith@snafu.de> - 2026-01-31 14:34 +0100
  Re: Enshittification Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2026-01-31 11:27 +0100
  Re: Enshittification Frank Nitzschner <nospam@nitzschner.de> - 2026-01-31 14:07 +0100
  Re: Enshittification Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2026-01-31 14:35 +0100
    Re: Enshittification Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2026-01-31 15:51 +0100
      Re: Enshittification Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2026-01-31 15:00 +0000
        Re: Enshittification Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2026-01-31 16:51 +0100
  Re: Enshittification Peter Schneider <nospam@gmx.de> - 2026-01-31 15:03 +0100
    Re: Enshittification Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2026-01-31 14:45 +0000
      Re: Enshittification Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2026-01-31 15:50 +0100
        Re: Enshittification Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2026-01-31 14:59 +0000
          Re: Enshittification Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2026-01-31 16:07 +0100
          Re: Enshittification Carlo XYZ <carloxyz@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-31 17:54 +0100
            Re: Enshittification "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2026-01-31 18:12 +0100
              Re: Enshittification "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2026-01-31 18:17 +0100
                Re: Enshittification Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2026-01-31 21:39 +0100
                Re: Enshittification "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2026-02-01 08:55 +0100
                Re: Enshittification Walter Brill <WalterBrill@t-online.de> - 2026-02-01 14:01 +0100
                Re: Enshittification Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2026-02-01 13:41 +0000
                Re: Enshittification Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2026-02-01 15:46 +0100
                Re: Enshittification Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2026-02-01 16:49 +0000
                Re: Enshittification Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2026-02-01 20:35 +0000
                Re: Enshittification Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2026-02-02 06:19 +0100
              Re: Enshittification Carlo XYZ <carloxyz@invalid.invalid> - 2026-02-01 12:34 +0100
          Re: Enshittification Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2026-01-31 18:41 +0100
  Re: Enshittification Walter Brill <WalterBrill@t-online.de> - 2026-01-31 16:36 +0100
  Re: Enshittification Ulrich D i e z <ud.usenetcorrespondence@web.de> - 2026-01-31 17:13 +0100
    Re: Enshittification Marco Moock <mm+solani@dorfdsl.de> - 2026-01-31 17:43 +0100
      Re: Enshittification Ulrich D i e z <ud.usenetcorrespondence@web.de> - 2026-02-01 20:46 +0100
        Re: Enshittification Marco Moock <mm+solani@dorfdsl.de> - 2026-02-08 10:14 +0100
          Re: Enshittification Ulrich D i e z <ud.usenetcorrespondence@web.de> - 2026-02-08 19:25 +0100
            Re: Enshittification Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2026-02-08 19:17 +0000
              Re: Enshittification Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2026-02-09 09:58 +0100
                Re: Enshittification Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2026-02-10 07:15 +0100
              Re: Enshittification Ulrich D i e z <ud.usenetcorrespondence@web.de> - 2026-02-11 11:51 +0100
    Re: Enshittification Carlo XYZ <carloxyz@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-31 17:50 +0100
      Re: Enshittification Marco Moock <mm+solani@dorfdsl.de> - 2026-02-08 10:17 +0100
        Re: Enshittification Carlo XYZ <carloxyz@invalid.invalid> - 2026-02-08 11:51 +0100
          Re: Enshittification Ulrich D i e z <ud.usenetcorrespondence@web.de> - 2026-02-08 19:16 +0100
            Re: Enshittification Carlo XYZ <carloxyz@invalid.invalid> - 2026-02-08 21:49 +0100
              Re: Enshittification Ulrich D i e z <ud.usenetcorrespondence@web.de> - 2026-02-11 13:15 +0100
          Re: Enshittification Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2026-02-10 07:29 +0100
            Re: Enshittification Hartmut Ott <hottm@arcor.de> - 2026-02-10 12:14 +0100
              Re: Enshittification Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2026-02-10 14:00 +0100
                Re: Enshittification Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2026-02-10 19:05 +0100
                Re: Enshittification Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2026-02-10 21:08 +0100
                Re: Enshittification Hartmut Ott <hottm@arcor.de> - 2026-02-11 14:55 +0100
              Re: Enshittification Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2026-02-10 15:21 +0000
                Re: Enshittification Ulf Kutzner <user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-02-10 16:45 +0000
                Re: Enshittification Diedrich Ehlerding <diedrich.ehlerding@t-online.de> - 2026-02-10 17:57 +0100
                Re: Enshittification Ulf Kutzner <user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-02-10 17:08 +0000
                Re: Enshittification Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2026-02-10 19:06 +0100
                Re: Enshittification Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2026-02-10 20:35 +0100
                Re: Enshittification Dietz Proepper <dietz.usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2026-02-10 20:39 +0100
                Re: Enshittification Dietz Proepper <dietz.usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2026-02-10 20:36 +0100
                Re: Enshittification Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2026-02-10 20:35 +0000
                Re: Enshittification Gunter Kühne <kuehne-g@freenet.de> - 2026-02-11 14:42 +0100
                Re: Enshittification Ulf Kutzner <user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-02-11 13:46 +0000
                Re: Enshittification gunter-kuehne <gunter-kuehne@mail.de> - 2026-02-11 14:52 +0100
                Re: Enshittification Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2026-02-11 16:01 +0000
                Re: Enshittification Gunter Kühne <kuehne-g@freenet.de> - 2026-02-11 17:08 +0100
                Re: Enshittification Diedrich Ehlerding <diedrich.ehlerding@t-online.de> - 2026-02-11 15:38 +0100
                Re: Enshittification Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2026-02-11 16:02 +0000
                Re: Enshittification Diedrich Ehlerding <diedrich.ehlerding@t-online.de> - 2026-02-11 17:25 +0100
                Re: Enshittification Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2026-02-11 19:50 +0000
                Re: Enshittification Ulf Kutzner <user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-02-12 07:39 +0000
                Re: Enshittification Dietz Proepper <dietz.usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2026-02-10 20:35 +0100
                Re: Enshittification Walter Brill <WalterBrill@t-online.de> - 2026-02-18 14:32 +0100
                Re: Enshittification Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2026-02-10 21:00 +0100
                Re: Enshittification Ulf Kutzner <user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-02-11 07:41 +0000
                Re: Enshittification gunter-kuehne <gunter-kuehne@mail.de> - 2026-02-11 14:56 +0100
                Re: Enshittification Hartmut Ott <hottm@arcor.de> - 2026-02-11 14:58 +0100
  Re: Enshittification Andreas Karrer <ak-6a@gmx.ch> - 2026-02-02 02:15 +0000
    Re: Enshittification Dietz Proepper <dietz.usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2026-02-02 07:28 +0100
  Re: Enshittification "F. W." <me@home.invalid> - 2026-02-02 07:40 +0100
  Re: Enshittification Ulrich D i e z <ud.usenetcorrespondence@web.de> - 2026-02-11 12:11 +0100
    Re: Enshittification Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2026-02-11 12:45 +0100
      Re: Enshittification Heinz Brückner <Ha-He-Brueck@t-online.de> - 2026-02-11 21:55 +0100
        Re: Enshittification Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2026-02-12 11:02 +0000
          Re: Enshittification Ulf Kutzner <user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-02-12 11:14 +0000
          Re: Enshittification Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2026-02-12 12:25 +0100
            Re: Enshittification Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2026-02-12 11:57 +0000
              Re: Enshittification Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2026-02-12 13:08 +0100
              Re: Enshittification Ulf Kutzner <user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-02-12 13:07 +0000
                Re: Enshittification Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2026-02-12 13:25 +0000
              Re: Enshittification Ulrich Weise <ulrich.weise@t-online.de> - 2026-02-13 10:58 +0100
            Re: Enshittification Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2026-02-12 13:39 +0000
              Re: Enshittification Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2026-02-12 13:48 +0000
                Re: Enshittification Ulf Kutzner <user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-02-13 08:01 +0000
          Re: Enshittification Walter Brill <WalterBrill@t-online.de> - 2026-02-18 14:58 +0100
            Re: Enshittification Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2026-02-18 14:02 +0000
            Re: Enshittification Carlo XYZ <carloxyz@invalid.invalid> - 2026-02-18 17:46 +0100
      Re: Enshittification Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2026-02-12 10:17 +0100
        Re: Enshittification Ulf Kutzner <user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-02-12 09:29 +0000
          Re: Enshittification Andreas Bockelmann <xotzil@gmx.de> - 2026-02-20 10:21 +0100
        Re: Enshittification Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2026-02-12 10:40 +0100
          Re: Enshittification Ulf Kutzner <user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-02-12 10:03 +0000
            Re: Enshittification Walter Brill <WalterBrill@t-online.de> - 2026-02-18 15:45 +0100
          Re: Enshittification Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2026-02-12 11:02 +0000
          Re: Enshittification Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2026-02-12 13:44 +0000
          Re: Enshittification Ulrich Weise <ulrich.weise@t-online.de> - 2026-02-13 11:04 +0100
            Re: Enshittification Ulf Kutzner <user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-02-13 10:11 +0000
          Re: Enshittification Walter Brill <WalterBrill@t-online.de> - 2026-02-18 15:14 +0100
        Re: Enshittification Walter Brill <WalterBrill@t-online.de> - 2026-02-18 15:09 +0100
          Re: Enshittification Ulf Kutzner <user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-02-18 14:18 +0000
          Re: Enshittification Hartmut Ott <hottm@arcor.de> - 2026-02-19 14:00 +0100

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