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Re: New hard drive

From Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net>
Newsgroups alt.folklore.computers
Subject Re: New hard drive
Date 2015-09-11 11:32 -0400
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scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) writes:

> "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> writes:
>>Does anyone have any idea at all as to what the raw error rate is on a 
>>current 4 TB drive?  That is before ECC and whatever other magic is applied 
>>to it. ISTM the signal must be meaured in nanovolts. 
>
> # smartctl --all /dev/sdc
> ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE      UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
>   1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate     0x000f   108   099   006    Pre-fail  Always       -       19125192
>   5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   100   100   010    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
>   7 Seek_Error_Rate         0x000f   063   060   030    Pre-fail  Always       -       1897873
...
> SMART Error Log Version: 1
> No Errors Logged

These numbers have never been clear to me.
How can the worst be 99, but the value 108?

I would have thought 108 is cumulative since the last clear, but
there's no evidence of any time period that I can see.
Also, the "raw" value is in the millions.

I have 2 1TB hard drives and 1 128G SDD.

The SSD shows some pretty good numbers:

ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE      UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
  1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate     0x0000   100   100   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
  5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0000   100   100   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
  9 Power_On_Hours          0x0000   100   100   000    Old_age   Offline      -       48
 12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0000   100   100   000    Old_age   Offline      -       32
160 Uncorrectable_Error_Cnt 0x0000   100   100   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
161 Valid_Spare_Block_Cnt   0x0000   100   100   000    Old_age   Offline      -       45
163 Initial_Bad_Block_Count 0x0000   100   100   000    Old_age   Offline      -       24
164 Total_Erase_Count       0x0000   100   100   000    Old_age   Offline      -       1425
165 Max_Erase_Count         0x0000   100   100   000    Old_age   Offline      -       6
166 Min_Erase_Count         0x0000   100   100   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
167 Average_Erase_Count     0x0000   100   100   000    Old_age   Offline      -       1
168 Max_Erase_Count_of_Spec 0x0000   100   100   000    Old_age   Offline      -       3000
169 Remaining_Lifetime_Perc 0x0000   100   100   000    Old_age   Offline      -       100
175 Program_Fail_Count_Chip 0x0000   100   100   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
176 Erase_Fail_Count_Chip   0x0000   100   100   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
177 Wear_Leveling_Count     0x0000   100   100   050    Old_age   Offline      -       0
178 Runtime_Invalid_Blk_Cnt 0x0000   100   100   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
181 Program_Fail_Cnt_Total  0x0000   100   100   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
182 Erase_Fail_Count_Total  0x0000   100   100   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0000   100   100   000    Old_age   Offline      -       15
194 Temperature_Celsius     0x0000   100   100   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered  0x0000   100   100   000    Old_age   Offline      -       23
196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0000   100   100   016    Old_age   Offline      -       0
197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0000   100   100   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0000   100   100   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x0000   100   100   050    Old_age   Offline      -       639
232 Available_Reservd_Space 0x0000   100   100   000    Old_age   Offline      -       100
241 Host_Writes_32MiB       0x0000   100   100   000    Old_age   Offline      -       3328
242 Host_Reads_32MiB        0x0000   100   100   000    Old_age   Offline      -       2900
245 Unkn_SiliconMotion_Attr 0x0000   100   100   000    Old_age   Offline      -       5700

But now I know I don't understand the output.

The 2 1TB drives get remounted read only all summer long.
They don't like the heat in my office.
Still, smart doesn't give me any hints.

-- 
Dan Espen

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