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Re: Apple Event

From "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org>
Newsgroups ger.ct
Subject Re: Apple Event
Date 2015-09-10 22:16 +0200
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Am 10.09.15 um 22:01 schrieb Dr. Joachim Neudert:

> http://www.sonymobile.com/de/products/phones/xperia-z5-premium/
> 
> Vor allem dann, wenn es doch nur aufgeblasenes Full-HD ist. Aus einem
> Pixel mach 4.
> 
> Eigentlich erfüllt es schon die Betrugskriterien, oder?
> 

Und dieser Werbetext von der obigen Sony Page ist erst recht Betrug:

"Das entspricht der zehnfachen Pixelanzahl eines Full-HD-Fernsehers und
der doppelten Pixelanzahl der meisten Smartphones."

4k ist genau die 4-fache Pixelzahl eines Full-HD-Signals, statt
1920*1080 jeweils verdoppelt 3840*2160. 8MP statt 2 MP.
In Werbetext-Speak also 10 fach HD.

Ja, klar, das. Toll, solche Androiden, liegen 10-fach vorne.


Das komplette Zitat:


"Gestochen scharfe Aufnahmen

Entdecke jedes Detail mit mehr Pixel pro Zoll
Das Xperia Z5 Premium beeindruckt durch große Fortschritte in Sachen
Displaytechnologie mit 806 Pixel pro Zoll für gestochen scharfe Bilder.
Das entspricht der zehnfachen Pixelanzahl eines Full-HD-Fernsehers und
der doppelten Pixelanzahl der meisten Smartphones."


Aber Cupertino macht Marketing, wenn es zu seinen Displays einfach
schreibt "scharf genug"?

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Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-10 16:53 +0200
  Re: Apple Event "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-09-10 17:10 +0200
    Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-10 17:33 +0200
      Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-10 17:38 +0200
        Re: Apple Event "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-09-10 17:54 +0200
          Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-10 18:21 +0200
            Re: Apple Event "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-09-10 18:26 +0200
              Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-10 18:43 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2015-09-10 10:16 -0700
                Re: Apple Event "Juergen P. Meier" <nospam-1984@jors.net> - 2015-09-11 06:31 +0000
              Re: Apple Event Ingo Paschke <ipaschke@lpclabs.de> - 2015-09-10 19:27 +0200
                Re: Apple Event "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-09-10 20:17 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Ingo Paschke <ipaschke@lpclabs.de> - 2015-09-10 20:57 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-11 00:57 +0200
              Re: Apple Event Mike Grantz <beatclubs@stoiseland.de> - 2015-09-11 05:53 +0200
    Re: Apple Event Rick Szabo  <usenet13@rickszabo.de> - 2015-09-10 21:28 +0200
      Re: Apple Event "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-09-10 22:01 +0200
        Re: Apple Event Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2015-09-10 22:14 +0200
        Re: Apple Event "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-09-10 22:16 +0200
          Re: Apple Event Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2015-09-10 23:46 +0200
            Re: Apple Event Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-09-11 05:14 +0000
              Re: Apple Event Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2015-09-11 08:17 +0200
                Re: Apple Event "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-09-11 08:51 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2015-09-11 19:00 +0200
                Re: Apple Event "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-09-11 19:17 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-11 22:41 +0200
            Re: Apple Event "Juergen P. Meier" <nospam-1984@jors.net> - 2015-09-11 06:44 +0000
          Re: Apple Event Mike Grantz <beatclubs@stoiseland.de> - 2015-09-11 05:48 +0200
        Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-11 00:59 +0200
          Re: Apple Event Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2015-09-11 07:35 +0200
            Re: Apple Event "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-09-11 07:39 +0200
            Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-11 12:03 +0200
        Re: Apple Event Mike Grantz <beatclubs@stoiseland.de> - 2015-09-11 05:47 +0200
        Re: Apple Event Rick Szabo  <usenet13@rickszabo.de> - 2015-09-11 06:25 +0200
        Re: Apple Event Ingo Paschke <ipaschke@lpclabs.de> - 2015-09-11 09:03 +0200
        Re: Apple Event Sascha Grage <SGrage@gmx.net> - 2015-09-11 14:09 +0200
          Re: Apple Event Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2015-09-12 00:08 +0200
            Re: Apple Event Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2015-09-12 01:42 +0200
              Re: Apple Event Mike Grantz <beatclubs@stoiseland.de> - 2015-09-12 03:14 +0200
              Re: Apple Event Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2015-09-12 03:49 +0000
                Re: Apple Event rhartmann@trash-mail.com (Reiner Hartmann) - 2015-09-12 09:36 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Holger Marzen <holger@marzen.de> - 2015-09-12 07:41 +0000
                Re: Apple Event "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-09-12 10:03 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Mike Grantz <beatclubs@stoiseland.de> - 2015-09-13 01:44 +0200
                Re: Apple Event "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-09-12 10:06 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Mike Grantz <beatclubs@stoiseland.de> - 2015-09-13 01:46 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-12 22:01 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Bernd Ullrich <ullrich_bernd@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-12 22:09 +0200
        Re: Apple Event "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2015-09-14 13:27 +0200
          Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-14 13:59 +0200
          Re: Apple Event "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-09-14 15:15 +0200
            Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-14 16:36 +0200
    Re: Apple Event Mike Grantz <beatclubs@stoiseland.de> - 2015-09-11 05:43 +0200
  Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-10 23:49 +0200
    Re: Apple Event Mike Grantz <beatclubs@stoiseland.de> - 2015-09-11 05:51 +0200
    Re: Apple Event "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-09-11 07:44 +0200
      Re: Apple Event Mike Grantz <beatclubs@stoiseland.de> - 2015-09-11 07:47 +0200
      Re: Apple Event "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-09-11 07:59 +0200
      Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-11 12:06 +0200
    Re: Apple Event "Juergen P. Meier" <nospam-1984@jors.net> - 2015-09-11 06:49 +0000
      Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-13 00:19 +0200
        Re: Apple Event "Juergen P. Meier" <nospam-1984@jors.net> - 2015-09-13 10:06 +0000
          Re: Apple Event Mike Grantz <beatclubs@stoiseland.de> - 2015-09-13 12:50 +0200
          Re: Apple Event "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2015-09-14 13:38 +0200
            Re: Apple Event Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2015-09-14 14:00 +0200
              Re: Apple Event "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2015-09-15 16:36 +0200
          Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-14 01:57 +0200
            Re: Apple Event Rick Szabo  <usenet13@rickszabo.de> - 2015-09-15 06:15 +0200
      Re: Apple Event "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2015-09-14 13:36 +0200
        Re: Apple Event "Juergen P. Meier" <nospam-1984@jors.net> - 2015-09-14 14:06 +0000
  Re: Apple Event "Juergen P. Meier" <nospam-1984@jors.net> - 2015-09-11 06:21 +0000
  Re: Apple Event Mike Grantz <beatclubs@stoiseland.de> - 2015-09-11 21:23 +0200
    Re: Apple Event Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2015-09-12 19:02 +0200
      Re: Apple Event Ingo Paschke <ipaschke@lpclabs.de> - 2015-09-12 21:09 +0200
        Re: Apple Event Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2015-09-12 21:28 +0200
          Re: Apple Event Rick Szabo  <usenet13@rickszabo.de> - 2015-09-12 21:54 +0200
            Re: Apple Event Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2015-09-12 22:02 +0200
              Re: Apple Event Rick Szabo  <usenet13@rickszabo.de> - 2015-09-13 07:10 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2015-09-13 11:30 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-13 12:35 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2015-09-13 12:48 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-13 14:14 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2015-09-13 14:38 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-13 15:44 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Rick Szabo  <usenet13@rickszabo.de> - 2015-09-13 15:59 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2015-09-13 16:13 +0200
                Re: Apple Event "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-09-13 17:22 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2015-09-13 17:37 +0200
                Re: Apple Event "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-09-13 17:49 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2015-09-13 18:14 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Sascha Grage <SGrage@gmx.net> - 2015-09-13 20:19 +0200
                Re: Apple Event "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2015-09-14 13:44 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2015-09-13 18:06 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2015-09-13 18:16 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-09-13 16:28 +0000
                Re: Apple Event Sascha Grage <SGrage@gmx.net> - 2015-09-13 20:32 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2015-09-13 20:39 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Sascha Grage <SGrage@gmx.net> - 2015-09-13 21:43 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2015-09-14 18:59 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-15 00:30 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-13 22:07 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2015-09-14 19:00 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-14 23:48 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-13 22:03 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Sascha Grage <SGrage@gmx.net> - 2015-09-13 22:19 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-13 22:28 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Sascha Grage <SGrage@gmx.net> - 2015-09-13 23:29 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-14 00:04 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Sascha Grage <SGrage@gmx.net> - 2015-09-14 00:46 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-14 01:49 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Sascha Grage <SGrage@gmx.net> - 2015-09-14 02:37 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Frank Streitz <fskeinspam@web.de> - 2015-09-14 10:02 +0000
                Re: Apple Event "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-09-14 12:08 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Frank Streitz <fskeinspam@web.de> - 2015-09-14 10:37 +0000
                Re: Apple Event Ingo Paschke <ipaschke@lpclabs.de> - 2015-09-14 12:59 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2015-09-14 12:57 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-14 13:07 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2015-09-15 02:36 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-15 02:56 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Frank Streitz <fskeinspam@web.de> - 2015-09-15 05:59 +0000
                Re: Apple Event "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-09-15 08:19 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2015-09-15 12:17 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2015-09-15 12:27 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-15 13:46 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2015-09-15 17:29 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-15 17:35 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Frank Streitz <fskeinspam@web.de> - 2015-09-15 05:56 +0000
                Re: Apple Event "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-09-15 07:58 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2015-09-14 19:06 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-14 23:51 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2015-09-15 18:14 +0200
                Re: Apple Event "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-09-13 22:42 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Sascha Grage <SGrage@gmx.net> - 2015-09-13 23:06 +0200
                Re: Apple Event "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2015-09-14 13:45 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2015-09-15 02:36 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-15 03:00 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Rick Szabo  <usenet13@rickszabo.de> - 2015-09-15 06:18 +0200
                Re: Apple Event "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2015-09-15 16:30 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-15 23:46 +0200
                Re: Apple Event "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2015-09-16 08:40 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2015-09-16 00:05 -0700
                Re: Apple Event "Ulrich F. Heidenreich" <from!not-for-mail@tremornet.de> - 2015-09-16 10:28 +0200
                Re: Apple Event "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2015-09-16 11:01 +0200
                Re: Apple Event "Ulrich F. Heidenreich" <from!not-for-mail@tremornet.de> - 2015-09-16 11:57 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-16 11:45 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Mike Grantz <beatclubs@stoiseland.de> - 2015-09-18 06:45 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2015-09-15 12:33 +0200
                Re: Apple Event "Ulrich F. Heidenreich" <from!not-for-mail@tremornet.de> - 2015-09-15 13:13 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-15 13:53 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2015-09-15 17:53 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-15 20:58 +0200
                Re: Apple Event "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-09-15 22:23 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2015-09-16 00:16 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2015-09-16 00:46 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2015-09-15 21:32 -0700
                Re: Apple Event Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-09-16 04:44 +0000
                Re: Apple Event Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2015-09-16 05:14 +0000
                Re: Apple Event Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2015-09-16 03:43 -0700
                Re: Apple Event Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2015-09-16 23:04 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2015-09-16 23:51 -0700
                Re: Apple Event Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2015-09-17 12:11 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2015-09-17 03:15 -0700
                Re: Apple Event Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2015-09-17 17:41 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Sascha Grage <SGrage@gmx.net> - 2015-09-16 12:28 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2015-09-16 11:02 +0000
                Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-16 14:07 +0200
                Re: Apple Event "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-09-16 17:29 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-16 23:25 +0200
                Re: Apple Event "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2015-09-15 16:30 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2015-09-15 17:43 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Rick Szabo  <usenet13@rickszabo.de> - 2015-09-13 19:29 +0200
                Re: Apple Event "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-09-13 19:40 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-13 20:20 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Rick Szabo  <usenet13@rickszabo.de> - 2015-09-13 21:26 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2015-09-13 23:32 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Rick Szabo  <usenet13@rickszabo.de> - 2015-09-14 06:27 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-14 13:12 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2015-09-14 18:00 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Mike Grantz <beatclubs@stoiseland.de> - 2015-09-15 06:44 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2015-09-15 17:50 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2015-09-15 02:36 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2015-09-14 17:58 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Rick Szabo  <usenet13@rickszabo.de> - 2015-09-15 06:20 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Mike Grantz <beatclubs@stoiseland.de> - 2015-09-15 07:02 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2015-09-15 18:02 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Mike Grantz <beatclubs@stoiseland.de> - 2015-09-18 02:52 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2015-09-18 14:37 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2015-09-14 09:33 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2015-09-14 18:04 +0200
                Re: Apple Event "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2015-09-14 13:42 +0200
                Re: Apple Event spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2015-09-13 16:30 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2015-09-13 16:37 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2015-09-13 16:50 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Rick Szabo  <usenet13@rickszabo.de> - 2015-09-13 19:32 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-13 20:14 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2015-09-13 20:27 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-13 20:39 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Frank Streitz <fskeinspam@web.de> - 2015-09-14 10:18 +0000
                Re: Apple Event Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2015-09-14 05:01 -0700
                Re: Apple Event "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-09-14 15:16 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2015-09-14 06:21 -0700
                Re: Apple Event "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-09-14 15:39 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2015-09-14 06:48 -0700
                Re: Apple Event "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-09-14 16:01 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2015-09-14 16:26 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Wolfgang Kynast <wky@gmx.de> - 2015-09-14 18:15 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2015-09-14 13:06 -0700
                Re: Apple Event Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2015-09-15 02:36 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-14 16:37 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2015-09-14 19:10 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2015-09-14 13:10 -0700
                Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-14 23:52 +0200
              Re: Apple Event Ingo Paschke <ipaschke@lpclabs.de> - 2015-09-13 09:06 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Mike Grantz <beatclubs@stoiseland.de> - 2015-09-13 12:49 +0200
      Re: Apple Event Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2015-09-13 00:24 +0200
        Re: Apple Event Mike Grantz <beatclubs@stoiseland.de> - 2015-09-13 01:49 +0200
        Re: Apple Event Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2015-09-13 11:23 +0200
      Re: Apple Event "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2015-09-14 13:39 +0200

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