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Re: Apple Event

From Ingo Paschke <ipaschke@lpclabs.de>
Newsgroups ger.ct
Subject Re: Apple Event
Date 2015-09-10 20:57 +0200
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On 2015-09-10, Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> wrote:
> Am 10.09.15 um 19:27 schrieb Ingo Paschke:
>> On 2015-09-10, Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Nein. Denn es übersieht eine Sache: Pixel sehen ist nicht alles. Druck' mal ein
>> Dokument auf einem 300dpi-Drucker aus und dann dasselbe Dokument mit 1200dpi.
>> Dann halte es im iPad-Abstand vor Dich und schau Dir das Schriftbild an.
>> 
>> Siehst Du Pixel? Sicher nicht. 300dpi ist ja "Retina". Aber die 1200dpi-Schrift
>> wirkt wesentlich harmonischer, komisch... Einfach weil durch die hohe Auflösung
>> die Strichstärken und Rundungen noch einmal viel besser dargestellt werden
>> können.
>
> Sorry, da hast Du jetzt einen massiven Denkfehler drin.
>
> Die dpi des Displays limitieren doch nicht die dpi des Ausdrucks.

Das behaupte ich ja auch gar nicht. Tu mir doch mal den Gefallen und drucke
morgen den ersten Arztbrief, den Du schreibst mit einer Serifenschriftart
einfach noch einmal aus, nachdem Du den Drucker auf 300dpi umgestellt hast.

Nach der Apple-Retina-Theorie dürfte man ja aus normalem Betrachtungsabstand
keinen Unterschied sehen. Den sieht man aber. Sogar aus noch größerem Abstand.
Der 300dpi-Ausdruck schreit Schülerzeitung aus den 90ern, die Schrift wirkt zu
fett und unruhig, der 1200dpi-Ausdruck wirkt auf gutem Papier hochwertig und
für uns im Jahre 2015 einfach nur noch normal.

Das Auflösungsvermögen des Auges macht ja wohl keinen Unterschied zwischen
Displays und bedrucktem Papier?

>> In 1-2 Jahren kommt dann auch Apple mit den 4k-iPhone-Displays raus und
>> verkündet, wie revolutionär Ultra-Retina-Displays sind und dass sie die ersten
>> sind, die das richtig machen. 
>
> Ich glaube nicht, Ingo...

Da können wir wetten. Wir sprechen uns im September 2016 wieder.

Viele Grüße,
Ingo.

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Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-10 16:53 +0200
  Re: Apple Event "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-09-10 17:10 +0200
    Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-10 17:33 +0200
      Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-10 17:38 +0200
        Re: Apple Event "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-09-10 17:54 +0200
          Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-10 18:21 +0200
            Re: Apple Event "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-09-10 18:26 +0200
              Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-10 18:43 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2015-09-10 10:16 -0700
                Re: Apple Event "Juergen P. Meier" <nospam-1984@jors.net> - 2015-09-11 06:31 +0000
              Re: Apple Event Ingo Paschke <ipaschke@lpclabs.de> - 2015-09-10 19:27 +0200
                Re: Apple Event "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-09-10 20:17 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Ingo Paschke <ipaschke@lpclabs.de> - 2015-09-10 20:57 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-11 00:57 +0200
              Re: Apple Event Mike Grantz <beatclubs@stoiseland.de> - 2015-09-11 05:53 +0200
    Re: Apple Event Rick Szabo  <usenet13@rickszabo.de> - 2015-09-10 21:28 +0200
      Re: Apple Event "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-09-10 22:01 +0200
        Re: Apple Event Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2015-09-10 22:14 +0200
        Re: Apple Event "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-09-10 22:16 +0200
          Re: Apple Event Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2015-09-10 23:46 +0200
            Re: Apple Event Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-09-11 05:14 +0000
              Re: Apple Event Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2015-09-11 08:17 +0200
                Re: Apple Event "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-09-11 08:51 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2015-09-11 19:00 +0200
                Re: Apple Event "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-09-11 19:17 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-11 22:41 +0200
            Re: Apple Event "Juergen P. Meier" <nospam-1984@jors.net> - 2015-09-11 06:44 +0000
          Re: Apple Event Mike Grantz <beatclubs@stoiseland.de> - 2015-09-11 05:48 +0200
        Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-11 00:59 +0200
          Re: Apple Event Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2015-09-11 07:35 +0200
            Re: Apple Event "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-09-11 07:39 +0200
            Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-11 12:03 +0200
        Re: Apple Event Mike Grantz <beatclubs@stoiseland.de> - 2015-09-11 05:47 +0200
        Re: Apple Event Rick Szabo  <usenet13@rickszabo.de> - 2015-09-11 06:25 +0200
        Re: Apple Event Ingo Paschke <ipaschke@lpclabs.de> - 2015-09-11 09:03 +0200
        Re: Apple Event Sascha Grage <SGrage@gmx.net> - 2015-09-11 14:09 +0200
          Re: Apple Event Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2015-09-12 00:08 +0200
            Re: Apple Event Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2015-09-12 01:42 +0200
              Re: Apple Event Mike Grantz <beatclubs@stoiseland.de> - 2015-09-12 03:14 +0200
              Re: Apple Event Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2015-09-12 03:49 +0000
                Re: Apple Event rhartmann@trash-mail.com (Reiner Hartmann) - 2015-09-12 09:36 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Holger Marzen <holger@marzen.de> - 2015-09-12 07:41 +0000
                Re: Apple Event "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-09-12 10:03 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Mike Grantz <beatclubs@stoiseland.de> - 2015-09-13 01:44 +0200
                Re: Apple Event "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-09-12 10:06 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Mike Grantz <beatclubs@stoiseland.de> - 2015-09-13 01:46 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-12 22:01 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Bernd Ullrich <ullrich_bernd@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-12 22:09 +0200
        Re: Apple Event "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2015-09-14 13:27 +0200
          Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-14 13:59 +0200
          Re: Apple Event "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-09-14 15:15 +0200
            Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-14 16:36 +0200
    Re: Apple Event Mike Grantz <beatclubs@stoiseland.de> - 2015-09-11 05:43 +0200
  Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-10 23:49 +0200
    Re: Apple Event Mike Grantz <beatclubs@stoiseland.de> - 2015-09-11 05:51 +0200
    Re: Apple Event "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-09-11 07:44 +0200
      Re: Apple Event Mike Grantz <beatclubs@stoiseland.de> - 2015-09-11 07:47 +0200
      Re: Apple Event "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-09-11 07:59 +0200
      Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-11 12:06 +0200
    Re: Apple Event "Juergen P. Meier" <nospam-1984@jors.net> - 2015-09-11 06:49 +0000
      Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-13 00:19 +0200
        Re: Apple Event "Juergen P. Meier" <nospam-1984@jors.net> - 2015-09-13 10:06 +0000
          Re: Apple Event Mike Grantz <beatclubs@stoiseland.de> - 2015-09-13 12:50 +0200
          Re: Apple Event "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2015-09-14 13:38 +0200
            Re: Apple Event Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2015-09-14 14:00 +0200
              Re: Apple Event "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2015-09-15 16:36 +0200
          Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-14 01:57 +0200
            Re: Apple Event Rick Szabo  <usenet13@rickszabo.de> - 2015-09-15 06:15 +0200
      Re: Apple Event "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2015-09-14 13:36 +0200
        Re: Apple Event "Juergen P. Meier" <nospam-1984@jors.net> - 2015-09-14 14:06 +0000
  Re: Apple Event "Juergen P. Meier" <nospam-1984@jors.net> - 2015-09-11 06:21 +0000
  Re: Apple Event Mike Grantz <beatclubs@stoiseland.de> - 2015-09-11 21:23 +0200
    Re: Apple Event Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2015-09-12 19:02 +0200
      Re: Apple Event Ingo Paschke <ipaschke@lpclabs.de> - 2015-09-12 21:09 +0200
        Re: Apple Event Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2015-09-12 21:28 +0200
          Re: Apple Event Rick Szabo  <usenet13@rickszabo.de> - 2015-09-12 21:54 +0200
            Re: Apple Event Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2015-09-12 22:02 +0200
              Re: Apple Event Rick Szabo  <usenet13@rickszabo.de> - 2015-09-13 07:10 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2015-09-13 11:30 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-13 12:35 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2015-09-13 12:48 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-13 14:14 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2015-09-13 14:38 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-13 15:44 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Rick Szabo  <usenet13@rickszabo.de> - 2015-09-13 15:59 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2015-09-13 16:13 +0200
                Re: Apple Event "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-09-13 17:22 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2015-09-13 17:37 +0200
                Re: Apple Event "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-09-13 17:49 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2015-09-13 18:14 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Sascha Grage <SGrage@gmx.net> - 2015-09-13 20:19 +0200
                Re: Apple Event "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2015-09-14 13:44 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2015-09-13 18:06 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2015-09-13 18:16 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-09-13 16:28 +0000
                Re: Apple Event Sascha Grage <SGrage@gmx.net> - 2015-09-13 20:32 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2015-09-13 20:39 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Sascha Grage <SGrage@gmx.net> - 2015-09-13 21:43 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2015-09-14 18:59 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-15 00:30 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-13 22:07 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2015-09-14 19:00 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-14 23:48 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-13 22:03 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Sascha Grage <SGrage@gmx.net> - 2015-09-13 22:19 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-13 22:28 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Sascha Grage <SGrage@gmx.net> - 2015-09-13 23:29 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-14 00:04 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Sascha Grage <SGrage@gmx.net> - 2015-09-14 00:46 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-14 01:49 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Sascha Grage <SGrage@gmx.net> - 2015-09-14 02:37 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Frank Streitz <fskeinspam@web.de> - 2015-09-14 10:02 +0000
                Re: Apple Event "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-09-14 12:08 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Frank Streitz <fskeinspam@web.de> - 2015-09-14 10:37 +0000
                Re: Apple Event Ingo Paschke <ipaschke@lpclabs.de> - 2015-09-14 12:59 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2015-09-14 12:57 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-14 13:07 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2015-09-15 02:36 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-15 02:56 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Frank Streitz <fskeinspam@web.de> - 2015-09-15 05:59 +0000
                Re: Apple Event "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-09-15 08:19 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2015-09-15 12:17 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2015-09-15 12:27 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-15 13:46 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2015-09-15 17:29 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-15 17:35 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Frank Streitz <fskeinspam@web.de> - 2015-09-15 05:56 +0000
                Re: Apple Event "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-09-15 07:58 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2015-09-14 19:06 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-14 23:51 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2015-09-15 18:14 +0200
                Re: Apple Event "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-09-13 22:42 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Sascha Grage <SGrage@gmx.net> - 2015-09-13 23:06 +0200
                Re: Apple Event "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2015-09-14 13:45 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2015-09-15 02:36 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-15 03:00 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Rick Szabo  <usenet13@rickszabo.de> - 2015-09-15 06:18 +0200
                Re: Apple Event "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2015-09-15 16:30 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-15 23:46 +0200
                Re: Apple Event "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2015-09-16 08:40 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2015-09-16 00:05 -0700
                Re: Apple Event "Ulrich F. Heidenreich" <from!not-for-mail@tremornet.de> - 2015-09-16 10:28 +0200
                Re: Apple Event "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2015-09-16 11:01 +0200
                Re: Apple Event "Ulrich F. Heidenreich" <from!not-for-mail@tremornet.de> - 2015-09-16 11:57 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-16 11:45 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Mike Grantz <beatclubs@stoiseland.de> - 2015-09-18 06:45 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2015-09-15 12:33 +0200
                Re: Apple Event "Ulrich F. Heidenreich" <from!not-for-mail@tremornet.de> - 2015-09-15 13:13 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-15 13:53 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2015-09-15 17:53 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-15 20:58 +0200
                Re: Apple Event "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-09-15 22:23 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2015-09-16 00:16 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2015-09-16 00:46 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2015-09-15 21:32 -0700
                Re: Apple Event Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-09-16 04:44 +0000
                Re: Apple Event Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2015-09-16 05:14 +0000
                Re: Apple Event Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2015-09-16 03:43 -0700
                Re: Apple Event Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2015-09-16 23:04 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2015-09-16 23:51 -0700
                Re: Apple Event Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2015-09-17 12:11 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2015-09-17 03:15 -0700
                Re: Apple Event Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2015-09-17 17:41 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Sascha Grage <SGrage@gmx.net> - 2015-09-16 12:28 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2015-09-16 11:02 +0000
                Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-16 14:07 +0200
                Re: Apple Event "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-09-16 17:29 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-16 23:25 +0200
                Re: Apple Event "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2015-09-15 16:30 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2015-09-15 17:43 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Rick Szabo  <usenet13@rickszabo.de> - 2015-09-13 19:29 +0200
                Re: Apple Event "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-09-13 19:40 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-13 20:20 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Rick Szabo  <usenet13@rickszabo.de> - 2015-09-13 21:26 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2015-09-13 23:32 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Rick Szabo  <usenet13@rickszabo.de> - 2015-09-14 06:27 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-14 13:12 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2015-09-14 18:00 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Mike Grantz <beatclubs@stoiseland.de> - 2015-09-15 06:44 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2015-09-15 17:50 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2015-09-15 02:36 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2015-09-14 17:58 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Rick Szabo  <usenet13@rickszabo.de> - 2015-09-15 06:20 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Mike Grantz <beatclubs@stoiseland.de> - 2015-09-15 07:02 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2015-09-15 18:02 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Mike Grantz <beatclubs@stoiseland.de> - 2015-09-18 02:52 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2015-09-18 14:37 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2015-09-14 09:33 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2015-09-14 18:04 +0200
                Re: Apple Event "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2015-09-14 13:42 +0200
                Re: Apple Event spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2015-09-13 16:30 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2015-09-13 16:37 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2015-09-13 16:50 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Rick Szabo  <usenet13@rickszabo.de> - 2015-09-13 19:32 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-13 20:14 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2015-09-13 20:27 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-13 20:39 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Frank Streitz <fskeinspam@web.de> - 2015-09-14 10:18 +0000
                Re: Apple Event Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2015-09-14 05:01 -0700
                Re: Apple Event "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-09-14 15:16 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2015-09-14 06:21 -0700
                Re: Apple Event "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-09-14 15:39 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2015-09-14 06:48 -0700
                Re: Apple Event "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-09-14 16:01 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2015-09-14 16:26 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Wolfgang Kynast <wky@gmx.de> - 2015-09-14 18:15 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2015-09-14 13:06 -0700
                Re: Apple Event Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2015-09-15 02:36 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-14 16:37 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2015-09-14 19:10 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2015-09-14 13:10 -0700
                Re: Apple Event Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-09-14 23:52 +0200
              Re: Apple Event Ingo Paschke <ipaschke@lpclabs.de> - 2015-09-13 09:06 +0200
                Re: Apple Event Mike Grantz <beatclubs@stoiseland.de> - 2015-09-13 12:49 +0200
      Re: Apple Event Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2015-09-13 00:24 +0200
        Re: Apple Event Mike Grantz <beatclubs@stoiseland.de> - 2015-09-13 01:49 +0200
        Re: Apple Event Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2015-09-13 11:23 +0200
      Re: Apple Event "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2015-09-14 13:39 +0200

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