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Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share

From "A.M" <.m@nsn.s>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share
Date 2015-09-04 12:57 -0400
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On 2015-09-04 11:55 AM, cc wrote:
> On Friday, September 4, 2015 at 10:49:23 AM UTC-4, A.M wrote:
>> On 2015-09-04 10:39 AM, cc wrote:
>>> On Friday, September 4, 2015 at 10:20:09 AM UTC-4, A.M wrote:
>>>> On 2015-09-04 8:53 AM, DFS wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, US is #1 in higher education
>>>>> http://www.universitas21.com/article/projects/details/152/u21-ranking-of-national-higher-education-systems
>>>>>
>>>>> It's the envy of the world.
>>>>
>>>> Well, higher education is not a fair representation for me since higher
>>>> education in the United States involves places like Harvard and Yale
>>>> which are very exclusive to the best of the best from every country.
>>>
>>> And also involves places like Kaplan University and everything in 
>>> between. Even the not so best of the best can attend. In the US roughly 
>>> 70% of people at least enroll in a college after high school currently. 
>>> Not all are able to finish of course, but the opportunity is there. 
>>> That's hardly exclusive.
>>
>> Not everyone can afford the tuition that Harvard and Yale demand so
>> yeah, it's pretty exclusive. 
> 
> Harvard and Yale are, yes. But higher education itself, is not.

I'm curious then. Here in Quebec at least, tuition to our university is
about $2,000 (including books) per semester. Its affordability (even the
internationally-reknowned schools like McGill University) means that a
lot of people apply and that the best are chosen but that a lot of
lesser students get schooling as well. As far as I know, the highest
tuition you will pay here in Canada in general is about $8,000 per
semester. Does ANY university in the University cost $8,000 or less?

If not, tell yourself the following: the people who will get higher
education are either already rich (educated parents make more money and
breed educated children most of the time), the best of their class (free
scholarships) or saved for it since birth (smart parents who probably
taught the kids the value of a good education). As such, we shouldn't be
surprised that they do so well since those who wouldn't have been weeded
out. Here, even the worst get an education somewhere.

>> It's either people whose families are
>> already rich or people who performed so well that they got scholarships
>> which paid for everything. I somehow doubt that Community Colleges are
>> included in that list.
> 
> I don't think they are, but there are about 5000 universities and 
> colleges in the U.S. and those are included in "higher education" and 
> 70% of high schoolers enroll in "higher education", although a much 
> lower percentage actually get a degree. But like I said, the opportunity 
> is there for most to get a degree, and most are actually enrolling, which 
> means in the US "higher education" is not exclusive at all.

I'm just happy that I lived in Montreal where I didn't have to pay
ridiculous fees to get a University education. Let's leave it at that. I
met a lot of Americans during my stay there and they admitted that they
came to my university because of its reputation but mostly because of
its affordability. They, themselves, told me that American higher
education was not affordable and this was between 1999 and 2003.


>>> Every journalist is now in on it?
>>
>> Not every journalist makes articles promoting GMO.
>>
> 
> There's a difference between promoting GMO and pointing out the 
> scientific flaws of the opponents who won't (can't) link to valid 
> research supporting the dangers of GMOs when asked.

Well tell yourself the following. GMOs are basically seed which suddenly
have parents on them. They are, at their base, unethical according to
people like Wretched Stallman. I'm actually on his side for this matter
because I believe that farmers should be allowed to save seeds for the
next year and GMOs don't allow them to do that. The way that they work
is that the properties of another seed, resistant to certain insects,
are forced into the seed you are creating. As such, they are essentially
Frankenstein creations. However, they still require proprietary
(oil-based) fertilizers provided by the company creating the GMO seed
and are generally grown with the use of pesticides like glyphosate.
Glyphosate has already been linked (when a person is exposed in small
quantities) to kidney and liver damage
<http://www.rt.com/usa/313806-monsanto-roundup-kidney-damage/> and the
farmers are actually DOUSING their crops with the stuff because the bugs
the GMOs originally fended off by forcing the properties of another seed
have become resistant to the built-in insecticide and the weeds have
become resistant to the glyphosate. You only needed a little bit of
glyphosate at the beginning, now you need more and more to the point
that they're now considering using a variation of Agent Orange
(glyphosate is actually one half of Agent Orange) to use on the food. If
you see that as fine, great. Your health is not as important to me as my
own is. However...

... being doused in so many pesticides and insecticides coupled with the
fact that the ground these seeds grow are fertilized with chemicals
rather than vitamin and mineral-rich manure or food waste has made it
impossible for that soil to grow _anything_. That's why a lot of lands
in Argentina - which has grown GMOs for years - are now barren and
people need to stay as far away from them as possible because they cause
cancer and birth defects.

If you think all of that is fine, you're delusional.


-- 
A.M

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Better breakdown of OS/browser share Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-09-02 03:00 +0200
  Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 01:35 +0000
    Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-02 09:11 -0400
      Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 14:52 +0000
        Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-09-02 16:53 +0200
        Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-02 11:43 -0400
          Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-02 17:53 +0200
            Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 15:59 +0000
              Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-09-02 18:07 +0200
              Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-02 13:10 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 17:16 +0000
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-02 13:20 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 17:24 +0000
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-02 19:17 +0200
            Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-02 11:21 -0500
              Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share ronb <ronbNOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 16:36 +0000
          Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 15:56 +0000
            Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-09-02 18:05 +0200
              Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-09-02 20:46 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-03 09:08 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-09-03 15:53 +0200
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-03 09:08 -0500
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-09-03 10:24 -0400
                DumFSck's idiocy chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-03 09:40 -0500
                Re: DumFSck's idiocy Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 15:02 +0000
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-03 12:28 -0600
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-09-04 00:24 +0200
            Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-02 13:09 -0400
              Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 17:22 +0000
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-02 17:45 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-03 10:03 +0000
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-03 09:17 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-03 13:35 +0000
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-03 10:42 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-03 15:25 +0000
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-03 12:55 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-03 09:31 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 16:42 +0000
            Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-09-03 09:26 -0400
              Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-03 10:39 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 15:04 +0000
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-03 12:52 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 17:02 +0000
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-03 17:00 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-03 20:56 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-09-04 08:53 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-04 10:20 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-04 07:39 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-04 10:49 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-04 08:55 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-04 09:19 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-04 12:58 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-04 10:11 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-04 12:57 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-04 10:03 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-04 15:44 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 19:50 +0000
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-04 12:58 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 20:11 +0000
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-04 13:17 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 20:27 +0000
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Hoppy Hopkins <hopster86u4me@surferb.net> - 2015-09-04 18:28 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 13:21 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 20:33 +0000
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 13:46 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 14:49 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 16:34 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 16:37 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-09-04 20:18 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 17:40 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-04 21:18 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-05 09:53 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-05 11:11 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-09-05 10:21 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-05 08:09 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-09-05 11:42 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-05 08:46 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-09-05 11:54 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-05 16:05 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share hifye <hifye@humanoid.net> - 2015-09-05 11:58 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-05 11:10 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-05 16:02 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-05 14:20 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-05 16:00 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2015-09-05 13:51 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-05 14:12 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 13:11 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 20:20 +0000
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-04 13:24 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 20:30 +0000
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 13:36 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 13:28 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 20:38 +0000
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 13:49 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-04 14:00 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-04 12:56 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-04 16:29 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 20:35 +0000
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-04 18:24 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-04 18:42 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-04 18:43 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-04 21:17 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-04 21:50 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-05 09:51 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-05 10:12 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-05 11:24 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-05 16:09 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-04 21:57 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 14:28 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-10 05:16 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-10 10:26 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-09-10 11:38 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-10 12:02 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-10 09:16 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-10 14:53 -0400
  Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-01 18:46 -0700

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