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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science.

From Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
Newsgroups alt.atheism, sci.physics, sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science.
Date 2015-06-11 00:49 +0000
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On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 11:31:54 -0500, duke wrote:

> On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 00:16:56 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote:
> 
>>On Tue, 09 Jun 2015 15:14:16 -0500, duke wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 8 Jun 2015 23:00:09 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>On Mon, 08 Jun 2015 07:37:23 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 22:54:09 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>>On Sun, 07 Jun 2015 09:55:04 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sat, 6 Jun 2015 20:25:42 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 11:53:54 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 05 Jun 2015 17:47:37 -0700, talishi
>>>>>>>>> <talishi@example.net>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>On 06/05/2015 01:54 PM, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 03 Jun 2015 18:37:23 -0700,
>>>>>>>>>>> talishi<talishi@example.net>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> >duke wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>On Wed, 03 Jun 2015 03:58:35 -0700,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>talishi<talishi@example.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>You confusing the bible with the authors who wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>it...it's the authors who are the bad people.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>Oh, you don't believe the Bible is the word of God?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>Welcome to alt.atheism, you're in good company.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>The real problem is that atheism means "you declare there
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>is NO God".
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> >Atheism is simply reverting to the default state of human
>>>>>>>>>>>> >beings, who lack belief in any gods, before priests and
>>>>>>>>>>>> >parents fill their heads with such bullcrap.
>>>>>>>>>>> The village idiot dreams.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Next time you visit a maternity ward, just feel the evil coming
>>>>>>>>>>off all those atheist infants in the creche.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Atheism is a decision.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>When did _you_ decide to believe in god?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> As a youngster, my family was religious and I hung in until my
>>>>>>> graduation from college, but I never came close to deciding "why a
>>>>>>> God".
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Childhood indoctrination. You didn't decide because you were
>>>>>>brainwashed.
>>>>>>Your belief was decided for you by your parents.
>>>>> 
>>>>> But then I grew up and found out for sure that they were correct,
>>>>> just as I then taught my kids.
>>> 
>>>>So you agree that you didn't decide
>>> 
>>> I did not "decide" to believe.  After much study and evaluation, I
>>> realized I had misjudged the evidence and now saw the error of my old
>>> ways.
>>> 
>>> Change, change, change.
>>> 
>>>>and that your beliefs were implanted by your parents. As those beliefs
>>>>were never implanted in me, I also never decided not to believe.
>>> 
>>> Condemnation comes in adulthood when you still "_decide_ not believe".
>>> Heeheehee.
>>
>>Still no decision until you provide the evidence that there _is_
>>something to believe in. But we all know that there is NO EVIDENCE.
> 
> Cool.  Not my problem to solve.

Thanks for the admission that you believe without a single scrap of 
evidence. P.T. Barnum was correct.
 
>>> Of course I did.  In my advanced studied, I came to see all the truths
>>> I had overlooked.  You refuse to look to see if you overlooked
>>> anything.
> 
>>Until you provide the evidence that there _is_ something I've overlooked
>>there's nothing for me to look at. But we all know that there is NO
>>EVIDENCE.
> 
> I have a feeling God's making out your papers today.

Your feelings are not evidence of anything but your stupidity.

>>>>>>A drunk is happier than a sober man.
>>>>> A sober man doesn't get a hangover.
>>>>A drunk doesn't necessarily get one either.
>>> A sober man never does.
>>But is still not as happy as a drunk.
> 
> The drunk doesn't know.

Neither does the sober man.
 
>>> Really.  I don't hate you or anyone.
> 
>>Then why do you verbally harass atheists with your stupid unevidenced
>>beliefs?
> 
> To "hep" you.

You're trying, over and over, to sell shoes to a man without legs.
Do you 'think' that's clever?
 
>>>>>>>>> Babies are too young to make meaningful decisions.
>>>>>>>>Do babies believe in a god?
>>>>>>> No.
>>>>>>Therefore, they are atheists.
>>>>> No, they have no mental capacity to ascertain the presence of God.
> 
>>>>They do not believe in any gods, which makes them atheist.
>>> They are not even agnostics - they are incapable of making a decision
>>> either way.
> 
>>But you agreed that a decision isn't needed.
> 
> A decision is absolutely mandated.

So when did you make a decision to believe?
Remember that you've just stated that it's mandated.
 
>>>>So you are still under the influence of your parents' brainwashing.
>>>>I pity you.
>>> Dreamer in color.
>>You're an idiot in need of treatment.
> 
> I believe in God.

Q.E.D.

> *****
> "Paedophilia is the most perfect form of Prayer."
> Pope Paul VI *****

-- 
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made 
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-08 07:37 -0500
  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-08 23:00 +0000
    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-08 18:41 -0500
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-09 15:16 -0500
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-10 00:00 +0000
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-09 20:00 -0500
    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-09 15:14 -0500
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-10 00:16 +0000
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-10 11:31 -0500
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-11 00:49 +0000
  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-06-08 18:28 -0500
    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-08 17:24 -0700
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-09 15:18 -0500
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-06-09 17:06 -0500
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-09 17:39 -0700
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-10 11:33 -0500
  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-08 19:11 -0700
    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-09 15:19 -0500

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