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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science.

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On Mon, 08 Jun 2015 07:37:23 -0500, duke wrote:

> On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 22:54:09 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote:
> 
>>On Sun, 07 Jun 2015 09:55:04 -0500, duke wrote:
>>> On Sat, 6 Jun 2015 20:25:42 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>> wrote:
>>>>On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 11:53:54 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 05 Jun 2015 17:47:37 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>On 06/05/2015 01:54 PM, duke wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, 03 Jun 2015 18:37:23 -0700, talishi<talishi@example.net>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> >duke wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >>On Wed, 03 Jun 2015 03:58:35 -0700,
>>>>>>>>> >>talishi<talishi@example.net>
>>>>>>>>> >>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> >>>The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>You confusing the bible with the authors who wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>it...it's the authors who are the bad people.
>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>Oh, you don't believe the Bible is the word of God?  
>>>>>>>>>> >>>Welcome to alt.atheism, you're in good company.
>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >>The real problem is that atheism means "you declare there is
>>>>>>>>> >>NO God".
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >Atheism is simply reverting to the default state of human
>>>>>>>> >beings, who lack belief in any gods, before priests and parents
>>>>>>>> >fill their heads with such bullcrap.
>>>>>>> The village idiot dreams.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Next time you visit a maternity ward, just feel the evil coming off
>>>>>>all those atheist infants in the creche.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Atheism is a decision.
>>>>
>>>>When did _you_ decide to believe in god?
>>> 
>>> As a youngster, my family was religious and I hung in until my
>>> graduation from college, but I never came close to deciding "why a
>>> God".
>>
>>Childhood indoctrination. You didn't decide because you were
>>brainwashed.
>>Your belief was decided for you by your parents.
> 
> But then I grew up and found out for sure that they were correct, just
> as I then taught my kids.

So you agree that you didn't decide and that your beliefs were implanted 
by your parents. As those beliefs were never implanted in me, I also never 
decided not to believe.

>>> I had the same doubts as everybody in his ng.   For 20 years I
>>> persisted, avoiding Church.
> 
>>That's not atheism.
> 
> I never said I was an athiest.  I was a fallen away Catholic in serious
> doubt about the presence of God.  That makes both you and me agnositc in
> our beliefs .
> I grew up.

No you haven't. You're still under the influence of your parental 
indoctrination.

> 
>>> But eventually, it became obvious that I was increasingly failing at
>>> life.
>>And, from the evidence you've posted here, you still are.
> 
> You sure are judging form the bottom looking up.

I'm judging from your posts and the crap they contain.

>>> So I began to seek truth.  By study,
>>> reasoning, retreats, reading, etc., I began to see what I had totally
>>> missed the first 40 years of my life, and "real slowly" I returned to
>>> see and evaluate.  After 30 years, I have never been happier with
>>> myself
> 
>>A drunk is happier than a sober man.
> 
> A sober man doesn't get a hangover.

A drunk doesn't necessarily get one either.
 
>>> now that I follow Jesus in loving and obeying God and loving my
>>> neighbor as myself.
> 
>>Except if he's atheist, gay, Democ_Rat, Protest_Ant, or President of the
>>USA.
> 
> I don't hate anyone.

A lie of the first order.

>>>>> Babies are too young to make meaningful decisions.
>>>>Do babies believe in a god?
>>> No.
> 
>>Therefore, they are atheists.
> 
> No, they have no mental capacity to ascertain the presence of God.

They do not believe in any gods, which makes them atheist.
 
>>> It's a gradual learning.
>>= Indoctrination. With no or unsuccessful indoctrination they will
>>remain atheists, no decision needed.
> 
> The only way to hide is to jam your pointed head in the ground and push,
> push, push.

What am I hiding from?
 
>>> And it's not until the mid teens before a person can truthfully begin
>>> to make that decision.
> 
>>You made NO decision. It was implanted in you by parental
>>indoctrination.
> 
> I became a fallen away Catholic in my teens and a little later in live. 
> Then I reevaluated myself and my beliefs and found that I had made a
> serious mistake when I fell away.

So you are still under the influence of your parents' brainwashing.
I pity you.

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-- 
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to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-08 07:37 -0500
  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-08 23:00 +0000
    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-08 18:41 -0500
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-09 15:16 -0500
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-10 00:00 +0000
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-09 20:00 -0500
    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-09 15:14 -0500
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-10 00:16 +0000
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-10 11:31 -0500
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-11 00:49 +0000
  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-06-08 18:28 -0500
    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-08 17:24 -0700
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-09 15:18 -0500
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-06-09 17:06 -0500
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-09 17:39 -0700
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-10 11:33 -0500
  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-08 19:11 -0700
    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-09 15:19 -0500

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