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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science.

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On Tue, 09 Jun 2015 15:14:16 -0500, duke wrote:

> On Mon, 8 Jun 2015 23:00:09 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote:
> 
>>On Mon, 08 Jun 2015 07:37:23 -0500, duke wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 22:54:09 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>On Sun, 07 Jun 2015 09:55:04 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 6 Jun 2015 20:25:42 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 11:53:54 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>>> On Fri, 05 Jun 2015 17:47:37 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>On 06/05/2015 01:54 PM, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 03 Jun 2015 18:37:23 -0700, talishi<talishi@example.net>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> >duke wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> >>On Wed, 03 Jun 2015 03:58:35 -0700,
>>>>>>>>>>> >>talishi<talishi@example.net>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>You confusing the bible with the authors who wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>it...it's the authors who are the bad people.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>Oh, you don't believe the Bible is the word of God?
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>Welcome to alt.atheism, you're in good company.
>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>The real problem is that atheism means "you declare there is
>>>>>>>>>>> >>NO God".
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >Atheism is simply reverting to the default state of human
>>>>>>>>>> >beings, who lack belief in any gods, before priests and
>>>>>>>>>> >parents fill their heads with such bullcrap.
>>>>>>>>> The village idiot dreams.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Next time you visit a maternity ward, just feel the evil coming
>>>>>>>>off all those atheist infants in the creche.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Atheism is a decision.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>When did _you_ decide to believe in god?
>>>>> 
>>>>> As a youngster, my family was religious and I hung in until my
>>>>> graduation from college, but I never came close to deciding "why a
>>>>> God".
>>>>
>>>>Childhood indoctrination. You didn't decide because you were
>>>>brainwashed.
>>>>Your belief was decided for you by your parents.
>>> 
>>> But then I grew up and found out for sure that they were correct, just
>>> as I then taught my kids.
> 
>>So you agree that you didn't decide
> 
> I did not "decide" to believe.  After much study and evaluation, I
> realized I had misjudged the evidence and now saw the error of my old
> ways.
> 
> Change, change, change.
> 
>>and that your beliefs were implanted by your parents. As those beliefs
>>were never implanted in me, I also never decided not to believe.
> 
> Condemnation comes in adulthood when you still "_decide_ not believe".
> Heeheehee.

Still no decision until you provide the evidence that there _is_ something 
to believe in. But we all know that there is NO EVIDENCE.
 
>>>>> I had the same doubts as everybody in his ng.   For 20 years I
>>>>> persisted, avoiding Church.
>>> 
>>>>That's not atheism.
>>> 
>>> I never said I was an athiest.  I was a fallen away Catholic in
>>> serious doubt about the presence of God.  That makes both you and me
>>> agnositc in our beliefs .
>>> I grew up.
> 
>>No you haven't. You're still under the influence of your parental
>>indoctrination.
> 
> Of course I did.  In my advanced studied, I came to see all the truths I
> had overlooked.  You refuse to look to see if you overlooked anything.

Until you provide the evidence that there _is_ something I've overlooked 
there's nothing for me to look at. But we all know that there is NO 
EVIDENCE.

>>>>> But eventually, it became obvious that I was increasingly failing at
>>>>> life.
>>>>And, from the evidence you've posted here, you still are.
>>> 
>>> You sure are judging form the bottom looking up.
>>
>>I'm judging from your posts and the crap they contain.
> 
> Use your left hand.

Is that how you get it from your arse to your computer?

>>>>> So I began to seek truth.  By study,
>>>>> reasoning, retreats, reading, etc., I began to see what I had
>>>>> totally missed the first 40 years of my life, and "real slowly" I
>>>>> returned to see and evaluate.  After 30 years, I have never been
>>>>> happier with myself
>>> 
>>>>A drunk is happier than a sober man.
>>> 
>>> A sober man doesn't get a hangover.
> 
>>A drunk doesn't necessarily get one either.
> 
> A sober man never does.

But is still not as happy as a drunk.

>>>>> now that I follow Jesus in loving and obeying God and loving my
>>>>> neighbor as myself.
>>> 
>>>>Except if he's atheist, gay, Democ_Rat, Protest_Ant, or President of
>>>>the USA.
>>> 
>>> I don't hate anyone.
> 
>>A lie of the first order.
> 
> Really.  I don't hate you or anyone.

Then why do you verbally harass atheists with your stupid unevidenced 
beliefs?
Why do you lie about having evidence when you have none?
Why do you sexually harass Jeanne?
Why do you call your president 'Buckwheat'?
Sure looks like hate to me.

>>>>>>> Babies are too young to make meaningful decisions.
>>>>>>Do babies believe in a god?
>>>>> No.
>>> 
>>>>Therefore, they are atheists.
>>> 
>>> No, they have no mental capacity to ascertain the presence of God.
> 
>>They do not believe in any gods, which makes them atheist.
> 
> They are not even agnostics - they are incapable of making a decision
> either way.

But you agreed that a decision isn't needed.

>>>>> It's a gradual learning.
>>>>= Indoctrination. With no or unsuccessful indoctrination they will
>>>>remain atheists, no decision needed.
>>> 
>>> The only way to hide is to jam your pointed head in the ground and
>>> push,
>>> push, push.
>>
>>What am I hiding from?
> 
> What ever it is, you'll find it if you push hard enough.

More nonsense from the deluded mind of puke.
  
>>>>> And it's not until the mid teens before a person can truthfully
>>>>> begin to make that decision.
>>> 
>>>>You made NO decision. It was implanted in you by parental
>>>>indoctrination.
>  
>>> I became a fallen away Catholic in my teens and a little later in
>>> live. Then I reevaluated myself and my beliefs and found that I had
>>> made a serious mistake when I fell away.
> 
>>So you are still under the influence of your parents' brainwashing.
>>I pity you.
> 
> Dreamer in color.

You're an idiot in need of treatment.

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-- 
Smiler, The godless one.
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Gods are all tailored to order. They are made 
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-08 07:37 -0500
  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-08 23:00 +0000
    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-08 18:41 -0500
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-09 15:16 -0500
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-10 00:00 +0000
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-09 20:00 -0500
    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-09 15:14 -0500
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-10 00:16 +0000
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-10 11:31 -0500
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-11 00:49 +0000
  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-06-08 18:28 -0500
    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-08 17:24 -0700
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-09 15:18 -0500
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-06-09 17:06 -0500
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-09 17:39 -0700
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-10 11:33 -0500
  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-08 19:11 -0700
    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-09 15:19 -0500

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