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Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys

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On 2014-02-28, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> In article <leplje$tid$1@speranza.aioe.org>, Hils
><hils@saynotospam.net> wrote:
>> 
>> You may as well include the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act,
>> which not only allows GCHQ to intercept the communications of citizens
>> not suspected of any crime, but allows a very wide range of public
>> employees to intercept private communications for a very wide range of
>> reasons (the "economic well-being of the United Kingdom" FFS).
>
> A bad piece of legislation that should be repealed. It is also being
> misused by local authorities.
>
>> You may as well also include the legislation under which David
>> Miranda was detained ...
>
> I know nothing of him.
>
>> and which keeps Julian Assange imprisoned.
>
> Assange's supposed reason is that, once extradited to Sweden, he could
> then be sent on to the US, although I'm not sure why. The extradition
> to Sweden issue may, for all I know, be being done under the European
> Arrest Warrant, which, along with the actual Extradition Treaty
> conditions between the UK and the US, was another egregious action
> taken by the charlatan Blair. If someone is wanted by a foreign state,
> then the validity of the case should be tested in a UK court.

I only became aware of the European Arrest Warrant a few years ago, but
it has been in existence since 2002:

<http://europa.eu/legislation_summaries/justice_freedom_security/judicial_cooperation_in_criminal_matters/l33167_en.htm>

It occurred to me that the misuse of RIP you mention above by local
authorities (or other government bodies) could lead to a situation where a
European Arrest Warrant was issued by the UK for someone living in the EU.
Prior to the EAW coming into effect they would have presumably had the
protection of the court in their local jurisdiction, but not any more.

As an aside, I was puzzled several years ago by an increase in the length
of prison sentences for various (minor-ish) crimes by the UK government;
various studies have concluded that lengthening sentences is not really a
deterrent, so why do it?  The answer may lie in this extract from the
above article:

"The warrant applies in the following cases:

* where a final sentence of imprisonment or a detention order has been
imposed for a period of at least four months;
* for offences punishable by imprisonment or a detention order for a
maximum period of at least one year."

-- 
Paul Sture
Not the one on Facebook

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British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2014-02-27 22:49 -0600
  Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Hils <hils@saynotospam.net> - 2014-02-28 05:36 +0000
    Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-02-28 09:25 +0000
      Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Hils <hils@saynotospam.net> - 2014-02-28 09:41 +0000
        Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-02-28 11:34 +0000
          Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2014-03-01 19:08 -0300
            Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-03-02 00:21 +0000
              Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-02 08:14 +0000
                Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2014-03-02 09:30 -0300
                Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-02 23:31 +0000
                Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-03-02 13:07 +0000
                Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2014-03-02 12:19 -0300
                Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-02 23:33 +0000
                Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-03-03 10:19 +0000
                Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2014-03-03 11:57 -0300
                Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-03-03 15:22 +0000
                Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2014-03-03 17:56 +0100
                Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-03-03 17:23 +0000
                Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2014-03-03 17:44 +0100
                Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-03-03 17:16 +0000
                Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-03 17:00 +0000
              Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2014-03-02 09:24 -0300
                Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2014-03-02 14:00 +0100
                Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2014-03-02 12:11 -0300
                Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2014-03-02 16:53 +0100
                Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-02 23:38 +0000
                Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2014-03-03 12:00 -0300
                Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-03 17:03 +0000
                Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> - 2014-03-03 18:02 +0000
                Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2014-03-03 21:52 -0300
          Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-03-04 23:05 +0100
            Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys greymausg <maus@mail.com> - 2014-03-05 11:55 +0000
              Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-03-05 13:11 +0000

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