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Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys

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On Sunday 02 March 2014 13:24, Shadow conveyed the following to 
comp.misc...

> On Sun, 02 Mar 2014 00:21:05 +0000, Tim Streater
> <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> 
>> In article <t9m4h99dkthct36ojt285gf5k5a5ohfbd3@4ax.com>, Shadow
>> <Sh@dow.br> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 28 Feb 2014 11:34:13 +0000, Tim Streater
>>> <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> > Assange's supposed reason is that, once extradited to Sweden, he
>>> > could then be sent on to the US, although I'm not sure why.
>>> 
>>>    For "Treason". One of the few people in the world accused of
>>> treason by a foreign (to him) country.
>>
>> Is this another case of the US arbitrarily extending its laws to
>> places and in ways that it has no business doing? They do have form
>> in that regard.
>>
>>>    Sweden has extradition treaties with the US. Once he lands
>>> there, he'll be on his way to Guantanamo the next day.
>>
>> In that case, you'd expect the US to be asking the UK to extradite
>> him.
> 
> They did. The UK gvnmt was getting a lot of flak from the
> public for being USA's lapdog, so they ordered him extradited to
> Sweden.

That is not entirely correct.  Sweden does have an arrest warrant for 
Julian Assange on account of what Swedish law considers rape - in his 
case, there were two women who filed charges against Assange for having 
had *unsafe* sex with them, with the unsafe part being without their 
consent.

Bear no mistake: Assange is definitely a narcissistic and even 
misogynistic individual, but there was definitely something fishy about 
the charges brought up against him.  

For starters, it's conspicuously coincidental that these charges were 
brought up against him in Sweden, the only country in Europe which 
considers unsafe sex a form of rape, even if both parties consented to 
the act, but with one party insisting on safe sex and the other party 
refusing to comply with that.

Secondly, one of the women who filed charges against Assange in Sweden 
has disappeared off the radar.  Given that both rape charges were 
immediately brought up against Assange right after Wikileaks published 
the Bradley Manning material, there's definitely a stench of rotting 
fish to this whole affair.

Given that Wikileaks is not a US American organization and that Julian 
Assange is an Australian citizen, not a US American, there was very 
little that the USA could do, so they probably set up those charges 
against him in Sweden, given that Sweden is a secret NATO ally, and as 
soon as Assange were to be apprehended there, he would be on his way to 
the USA, and from there undoubtedly to Guantanamo Bay.

> It's why he's holed up in the Ecuadorian Embassy.

Um, no. That's the result of the arrest warrant running against him in 
Sweden, and Sweden requesting Assange's arrest in the UK.  

Of course, everyone knows that this is all a smokescreen.

> Like I said, if he steps out the next day he's on his way to
> Guantanamo, with a transit stop in Sweden, and no lawyers allowed.
> They call that "human rights". It's what they are preaching in
> the Ukraine, after felling the democratically elected government. 95%
> of the Ukraine people still defend ties with Russia. The dissidents
> were a mere 5%.

Isn't it highly ironic that the minute that there are problems in 
Ukraine, John Kerry and John McCain suddenly show up in that country to 
"support the opposition"?

It is no secret that governments and corporations deploy shills these 
days to create dissent on the Internet.  It should therefore also not be 
considered a secret that the same governments and the same corporations 
also send out proselytizers to foreign nations in order to subvert the 
local regimes.  That's how the civil war in Libya started, that's how 
the civil war in Georgia started, and now it's how the civil unrest in 
Ukraine got started.

> War is big business. And bugger the "collateral damage" as
> long as nothing lands on Wall Street.

Amen to that.

-- 
= Aragorn =

         http://www.linuxcounter.net - registrant #223157

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British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2014-02-27 22:49 -0600
  Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Hils <hils@saynotospam.net> - 2014-02-28 05:36 +0000
    Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-02-28 09:25 +0000
      Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Hils <hils@saynotospam.net> - 2014-02-28 09:41 +0000
        Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-02-28 11:34 +0000
          Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2014-03-01 19:08 -0300
            Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-03-02 00:21 +0000
              Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-02 08:14 +0000
                Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2014-03-02 09:30 -0300
                Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-02 23:31 +0000
                Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-03-02 13:07 +0000
                Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2014-03-02 12:19 -0300
                Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-02 23:33 +0000
                Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-03-03 10:19 +0000
                Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2014-03-03 11:57 -0300
                Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-03-03 15:22 +0000
                Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2014-03-03 17:56 +0100
                Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-03-03 17:23 +0000
                Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2014-03-03 17:44 +0100
                Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-03-03 17:16 +0000
                Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-03 17:00 +0000
              Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2014-03-02 09:24 -0300
                Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2014-03-02 14:00 +0100
                Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2014-03-02 12:11 -0300
                Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2014-03-02 16:53 +0100
                Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-02 23:38 +0000
                Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2014-03-03 12:00 -0300
                Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-03 17:03 +0000
                Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> - 2014-03-03 18:02 +0000
                Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2014-03-03 21:52 -0300
          Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-03-04 23:05 +0100
            Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys greymausg <maus@mail.com> - 2014-03-05 11:55 +0000
              Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-03-05 13:11 +0000

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