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Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys

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On 2014-03-04, Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> wrote:
> On 2014-02-28, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
>> In article <leplje$tid$1@speranza.aioe.org>, Hils
>><hils@saynotospam.net> wrote:
>>> 
> authorities (or other government bodies) could lead to a situation where a
> European Arrest Warrant was issued by the UK for someone living in the EU.
> Prior to the EAW coming into effect they would have presumably had the
> protection of the court in their local jurisdiction, but not any more.
>
> As an aside, I was puzzled several years ago by an increase in the length
> of prison sentences for various (minor-ish) crimes by the UK government;
> various studies have concluded that lengthening sentences is not really a
> deterrent, so why do it?  The answer may lie in this extract from the
> above article:
>
> "The warrant applies in the following cases:
>
> * where a final sentence of imprisonment or a detention order has been
> imposed for a period of at least four months;
> * for offences punishable by imprisonment or a detention order for a
> maximum period of at least one year."
>

Historically, AFAIK, if there was an extradition treaty between two states,
extradition was possible if the crime allegded was a crime in the state
where the suspect was present.

The present US-(Various countries) extradition treaty is unfair because, 
from the  US end, they can ask for someone to be extradited there for
any trivial reason. Other contries citizens can be extradited to the US 
for a trivial parking offences in Arkansas, for instance. Four UK bankers
were extradited, and , as far as I am aware, convicted for crimes that the
UK authorities had considered that they had not enough evidence for.

One UK citizen has won a case against extradition to France from Ireland
in a murder case because he pointed out that there was no evidence
against him.


-- 
maus
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British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2014-02-27 22:49 -0600
  Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Hils <hils@saynotospam.net> - 2014-02-28 05:36 +0000
    Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-02-28 09:25 +0000
      Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Hils <hils@saynotospam.net> - 2014-02-28 09:41 +0000
        Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-02-28 11:34 +0000
          Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2014-03-01 19:08 -0300
            Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-03-02 00:21 +0000
              Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-02 08:14 +0000
                Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2014-03-02 09:30 -0300
                Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-02 23:31 +0000
                Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-03-02 13:07 +0000
                Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2014-03-02 12:19 -0300
                Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-02 23:33 +0000
                Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-03-03 10:19 +0000
                Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2014-03-03 11:57 -0300
                Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-03-03 15:22 +0000
                Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2014-03-03 17:56 +0100
                Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-03-03 17:23 +0000
                Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2014-03-03 17:44 +0100
                Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-03-03 17:16 +0000
                Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-03 17:00 +0000
              Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2014-03-02 09:24 -0300
                Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2014-03-02 14:00 +0100
                Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2014-03-02 12:11 -0300
                Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2014-03-02 16:53 +0100
                Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-02 23:38 +0000
                Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2014-03-03 12:00 -0300
                Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-03 17:03 +0000
                Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> - 2014-03-03 18:02 +0000
                Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2014-03-03 21:52 -0300
          Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-03-04 23:05 +0100
            Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys greymausg <maus@mail.com> - 2014-03-05 11:55 +0000
              Re: British Hacker Faces Extradition To US, Not To Mention Five Years' Imprisonment In UK For Failing To Hand Over Encryption Keys Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-03-05 13:11 +0000

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