Re: file location

From	Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.misc
Subject	Re: file location
Followup-To	comp.os.linux.misc
Date	2015-02-04 02:10 +0100
Organization	A noiseless patient Strider
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On Tuesday 03 February 2015 20:47, Bill Cunningham conveyed the 
following to comp.os.linux.misc...

> 
> "Aragorn" <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> wrote in message
> news:map9ms$o16$1@dont-email.me...
>> On Tuesday 03 February 2015 02:38, Chick Tower conveyed the following
>> to comp.os.linux.misc...
>>
>>> On 2015-02-01, Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In fact, HPFS, the old filesystem used in OS/2 and upon which NTFS
>>>> is supposed to be based, ....
>>>
>>> I thought NTFS was loosely based on VMS, since Microsoft hired the
>>> designer of VMS, (Dave?) Cutler, to design NTFS.
>>
>> His name is Dave Cutler, yes, and he more or less copied over the VMS
>> kernel code into the NT kernel, but simply renamed the functions and
>> the variables.  That's why DEC fired him on the spot and sued
>> Microsoft, but Gates settled the matter out of court by paying DEC a
>> large sum of money and conceding to supporting DEC's Alpha processor
>> in NT.
> 
>     I've heard people claim and I see it too. Microsoft never really
> seems to come up with anything original.

"Embrace.  Extend.  Extinguish."

> neXT step and the first guis. Silverlight and Adobe's flash. MS's COM
> and Apple's componets.

Well, to be fair, NeXtSTeP had nothing to do with Microsoft.  NeXt was a 
company founded by Steve Jobs after he had been fired from Apple.  It 
was similar to Apple in that it supplied both the hardware and the 
operating system, and they used Motorola processors of the same family 
as used in the Apple machines of the time, but they did introduce a few 
novel concepts.

NeXtSTeP, later on renamed to OpenSTEP [*], was the operating system for 
the NeXt, and was based upon the BSD Lite UNIX foundation, but with a 
proprietary graphical interface ─ similar in concept to the Aqua 
interface currently running on OS X ─ rather than on top of the (for a 
UNIX platform more common) X Window System.

Eventually NeXt was about to go bankrupt, and having been offered a job 
again as the (then temporary) CEO of Apple, Steve Jobs sold the hardware 
─ I'm not sure to whom anymore but I believe it may have been Compaq ─ 
and took the software with him over to Apple, where it then became the 
foundation for Rhapsody, and through it, OS X later on.

Steve Jobs had always been a fan of UNIX, as opposed to Bill Gates (and 
Dave Cutler), who hated UNIX.

[*] Several Free & Open Source Software window managers for the X Window
    System have been created with the look & feel of OpenSTEP, e.g.
    WindowMaker, GNUstep, AfterStep, et al.  There was also a Windows
    graphical shell replacement called LightStep which shared the same
    look & feel.

-- 
= Aragorn =

         http://www.linuxcounter.net - registrant #223157

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file location "Bill Cunningham" <nospam@nspam.invalid> - 2015-01-30 18:00 -0500
  Re: file location William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-01-31 00:08 +0000
  Re: file location Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2015-01-31 00:30 +0000
    Re: file location William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-01-31 00:51 +0000
      Re: file location Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2015-01-31 09:03 +0000
        Re: file location William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-01-31 18:14 +0000
          Re: file location "Bill Cunningham" <nospam@nspam.invalid> - 2015-01-31 19:00 -0500
            Re: file location William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-02-01 05:14 +0000
  Re: file location Zaphod Beeblebrox <none@none.org> - 2015-01-30 20:06 -0600
    Re: file location "Bill Cunningham" <nospam@nspam.invalid> - 2015-01-31 18:54 -0500
      Re: file location Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2015-02-01 04:52 +0100
        Re: file location "Bill Cunningham" <nospam@nspam.invalid> - 2015-02-02 15:50 -0500
          Re: file location Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2015-02-02 22:05 +0100
          Re: file location Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2015-02-02 22:29 +0000
            Re: file location "Bill Cunningham" <nospam@nspam.invalid> - 2015-02-02 18:05 -0500
        Re: file location Chick Tower <c.tower@deadspam.com> - 2015-02-03 01:38 +0000
          Re: file location Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2015-02-03 02:54 +0100
            Re: file location Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2015-02-03 09:04 +0000
              Re: file location Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2015-02-03 11:27 +0100
                Re: file location Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2015-02-03 10:56 +0000
                Re: file location Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2015-02-03 12:10 +0100
                Re: file location Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2015-02-03 18:39 +0000
                Re: file location Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2015-02-04 01:51 +0100
                Re: file location Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2015-02-04 09:19 +0000
              Re: file location The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-02-03 12:21 +0000
                Re: file location Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2015-02-03 12:57 +0000
                Re: file location William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-02-03 16:58 +0000
                Re: file location John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2015-02-03 11:24 -0600
                Re: file location The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-02-03 18:21 +0000
                Re: file location William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-02-04 01:11 +0000
                Re: file location The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-02-04 10:24 +0000
                Re: file location William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-02-04 23:19 +0000
                Re: file location Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2015-02-05 00:34 +0100
                Re: file location William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-02-04 01:08 +0000
                Re: file location The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-02-03 17:20 +0000
            Re: file location "Bill Cunningham" <nospam@nspam.invalid> - 2015-02-03 14:47 -0500
              Re: file location Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2015-02-04 02:10 +0100

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