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Re: file location

From William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc
Subject Re: file location
Date 2015-02-04 01:08 +0000
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID <marre3$vuo$1@dont-email.me> (permalink)
References (6 earlier) <wwvh9v38iy2.fsf@l1AntVDjLrnP7Td3DQJ8ynzIq3lJMueXf87AxnpFoA.invalid> <maqeg7$tfm$1@news.albasani.net> <wwvfvanf8zd.fsf@l1AntVDjLrnP7Td3DQJ8ynzIq3lJMueXf87AxnpFoA.invalid> <maqun2$6cc$2@dont-email.me> <87zj8uewmc.fsf@thumper.dhh.gt.org>

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On 2015-02-03, John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> wrote:
> William Unruh writes:
>> A translation of book A IS a copy of it.
>
> Strictly speaking it is a derivative work (still controlled by
> copyright, though).

Agreed. But then almost any copy is a derivative work. 

>
> It is not at all clear how the case would have turned out had it gone to
> trial, though.  Ideas are not protected by copyright and it could be
> argued that by the time they went from VAX assembler to C and made
> changes to meet Microsoft's requirements that no "creative expression"
> remained.

Hard to do. That was why Phoenix went through the whole "Chinese wall "
game with the IBM bios back in the original PC days. They had one team
abstract the functionality of the bios, and the second code that
functionality without ever seeing the original code. But it would have
been pretty hard for Microsoft to argue that they had done that. Having
one of the chief architects on board makes "independent creation" a hard
sell. 

>
> Misappropriation of trade secrets would have been a seperate issue, of
> course.

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file location "Bill Cunningham" <nospam@nspam.invalid> - 2015-01-30 18:00 -0500
  Re: file location William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-01-31 00:08 +0000
  Re: file location Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2015-01-31 00:30 +0000
    Re: file location William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-01-31 00:51 +0000
      Re: file location Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2015-01-31 09:03 +0000
        Re: file location William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-01-31 18:14 +0000
          Re: file location "Bill Cunningham" <nospam@nspam.invalid> - 2015-01-31 19:00 -0500
            Re: file location William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-02-01 05:14 +0000
  Re: file location Zaphod Beeblebrox <none@none.org> - 2015-01-30 20:06 -0600
    Re: file location "Bill Cunningham" <nospam@nspam.invalid> - 2015-01-31 18:54 -0500
      Re: file location Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2015-02-01 04:52 +0100
        Re: file location "Bill Cunningham" <nospam@nspam.invalid> - 2015-02-02 15:50 -0500
          Re: file location Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2015-02-02 22:05 +0100
          Re: file location Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2015-02-02 22:29 +0000
            Re: file location "Bill Cunningham" <nospam@nspam.invalid> - 2015-02-02 18:05 -0500
        Re: file location Chick Tower <c.tower@deadspam.com> - 2015-02-03 01:38 +0000
          Re: file location Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2015-02-03 02:54 +0100
            Re: file location Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2015-02-03 09:04 +0000
              Re: file location Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2015-02-03 11:27 +0100
                Re: file location Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2015-02-03 10:56 +0000
                Re: file location Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2015-02-03 12:10 +0100
                Re: file location Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2015-02-03 18:39 +0000
                Re: file location Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2015-02-04 01:51 +0100
                Re: file location Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2015-02-04 09:19 +0000
              Re: file location The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-02-03 12:21 +0000
                Re: file location Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2015-02-03 12:57 +0000
                Re: file location William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-02-03 16:58 +0000
                Re: file location John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2015-02-03 11:24 -0600
                Re: file location The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-02-03 18:21 +0000
                Re: file location William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-02-04 01:11 +0000
                Re: file location The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-02-04 10:24 +0000
                Re: file location William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-02-04 23:19 +0000
                Re: file location Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2015-02-05 00:34 +0100
                Re: file location William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-02-04 01:08 +0000
                Re: file location The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-02-03 17:20 +0000
            Re: file location "Bill Cunningham" <nospam@nspam.invalid> - 2015-02-03 14:47 -0500
              Re: file location Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2015-02-04 02:10 +0100

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