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Re: file location

From Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc
Subject Re: file location
Followup-To comp.os.linux.misc
Date 2015-02-03 02:54 +0100
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On Tuesday 03 February 2015 02:38, Chick Tower conveyed the following to 
comp.os.linux.misc...

> On 2015-02-01, Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> wrote:
>
>> In fact, HPFS, the old filesystem used in OS/2 and upon which NTFS is
>> supposed to be based, ....
> 
> I thought NTFS was loosely based on VMS, since Microsoft hired the
> designer of VMS, (Dave?) Cutler, to design NTFS.

His name is Dave Cutler, yes, and he more or less copied over the VMS 
kernel code into the NT kernel, but simply renamed the functions and the 
variables.  That's why DEC fired him on the spot and sued Microsoft, but 
Gates settled the matter out of court by paying DEC a large sum of money 
and conceding to supporting DEC's Alpha processor in NT.

> I guess he was free to draw inspiration for NTFS from anywhere he
> chose, but that's what I remember reading.  And I'm not trying to
> start a flame war.

Yeah.  It is possible that VMS served as the template for the NTFS 
filesystem itself as well, but as I understand it, they also reused some 
of the code from HPFS.  Certainly not all of it, because HPFS was a very 
clean filesystem, whereas NTFS is an ugly mess.  But then again, it 
comes from an ugly company. :p


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= Aragorn =

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file location "Bill Cunningham" <nospam@nspam.invalid> - 2015-01-30 18:00 -0500
  Re: file location William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-01-31 00:08 +0000
  Re: file location Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2015-01-31 00:30 +0000
    Re: file location William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-01-31 00:51 +0000
      Re: file location Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2015-01-31 09:03 +0000
        Re: file location William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-01-31 18:14 +0000
          Re: file location "Bill Cunningham" <nospam@nspam.invalid> - 2015-01-31 19:00 -0500
            Re: file location William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-02-01 05:14 +0000
  Re: file location Zaphod Beeblebrox <none@none.org> - 2015-01-30 20:06 -0600
    Re: file location "Bill Cunningham" <nospam@nspam.invalid> - 2015-01-31 18:54 -0500
      Re: file location Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2015-02-01 04:52 +0100
        Re: file location "Bill Cunningham" <nospam@nspam.invalid> - 2015-02-02 15:50 -0500
          Re: file location Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2015-02-02 22:05 +0100
          Re: file location Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2015-02-02 22:29 +0000
            Re: file location "Bill Cunningham" <nospam@nspam.invalid> - 2015-02-02 18:05 -0500
        Re: file location Chick Tower <c.tower@deadspam.com> - 2015-02-03 01:38 +0000
          Re: file location Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2015-02-03 02:54 +0100
            Re: file location Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2015-02-03 09:04 +0000
              Re: file location Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2015-02-03 11:27 +0100
                Re: file location Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2015-02-03 10:56 +0000
                Re: file location Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2015-02-03 12:10 +0100
                Re: file location Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2015-02-03 18:39 +0000
                Re: file location Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2015-02-04 01:51 +0100
                Re: file location Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2015-02-04 09:19 +0000
              Re: file location The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-02-03 12:21 +0000
                Re: file location Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2015-02-03 12:57 +0000
                Re: file location William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-02-03 16:58 +0000
                Re: file location John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2015-02-03 11:24 -0600
                Re: file location The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-02-03 18:21 +0000
                Re: file location William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-02-04 01:11 +0000
                Re: file location The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-02-04 10:24 +0000
                Re: file location William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-02-04 23:19 +0000
                Re: file location Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2015-02-05 00:34 +0100
                Re: file location William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-02-04 01:08 +0000
                Re: file location The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-02-03 17:20 +0000
            Re: file location "Bill Cunningham" <nospam@nspam.invalid> - 2015-02-03 14:47 -0500
              Re: file location Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2015-02-04 02:10 +0100

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