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Re: forth to drive automated fast food machines

From Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de>
Newsgroups comp.lang.forth
Subject Re: forth to drive automated fast food machines
Date 2014-10-17 01:26 +0200
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rickman wrote:
> *10k*!!???  More like 33k!!!!

That was more about the order of magnitue, I didn't look up the exact 
numbers.  33k indicates a lot of room for improvement.  Germany has a bit 
more than 3k per year now, so with one fourth of the population one tenth of 
the dead toll... and yes, we have that German Autobahn where you can drive 
as fast as you like (20% left or so, the rest is regulated).

> It used to be a lot higher with a peak of
> 54k in '72.

We had the peak about at the same time, 20k in 1970.

> All the safety pushes including both car and highway
> designs have a lot to do with the decline.

The compulsary wearing of the belt did show up in the statistics.  We have 
an almost linear decline since then, and if the decline continues as it is, 
by about 2020, there will be zero deaths in traffic...

> I expect the problems with the autonomous cars will be legal rather than
> technical.

You mean political.  The legal problems can easily be solved by requiring 
that the company who develops the autopilot is responsible for the 
accidents, and therefore has to pay the insurance.  The political problems 
like e.g. the taxi drivers preventing autonomous taxis to take their place 
or the car manufacturers who like to sell a car to everybody, which is then 
parking most of the time... while the number of autonomous cars just have to 
satisfy the transpor needs...  These problems are political, and 
challenging.

Rooting your autopilot of course voids that warranty... but making this 
illegal can have legal problems, too (e.g. what about the GPL'd software 
supporting the autopilot?).

-- 
Bernd Paysan
"If you want it done right, you have to do it yourself"
http://bernd-paysan.de/

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  Re: forth to drive automated fast food machines Paul E Bennett <Paul_E.Bennett@topmail.co.uk> - 2014-10-15 22:12 +0100
    Re: forth to drive automated fast food machines foxaudioresearch@gmail.com - 2014-10-15 18:36 -0700
      Re: forth to drive automated fast food machines Jason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com> - 2014-10-16 07:52 -0700
        Re: Google to drive car (was forth to drive automated fast food machines) "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2014-10-16 16:45 +0100
        Re: forth to drive automated fast food machines Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2014-10-16 21:38 +0200
          Re: forth to drive automated fast food machines rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-10-16 15:49 -0400
            Re: forth to drive automated fast food machines Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2014-10-17 01:26 +0200
              Re: forth to drive automated fast food machines Just Ian <superian@gmail.com> - 2014-10-16 17:09 -0700
                Re: forth to drive automated fast food machines Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2014-10-17 02:29 +0200
              Re: forth to drive automated fast food machines the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2014-11-08 23:32 -0800
          Re: forth to drive automated fast food machines hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-10-16 19:55 -0700
            Re: forth to drive automated fast food machines "Rod Pemberton" <buzzoff@nonamewhichexists.cmm> - 2014-10-17 22:40 -0400
          Re: forth to drive automated fast food machines the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2014-11-08 23:33 -0800
        Re: forth to drive automated fast food machines "Rod Pemberton" <buzzoff@nonamewhichexists.cmm> - 2014-10-17 22:35 -0400
    Re: forth to drive automated fast food machines the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2014-11-08 23:25 -0800
  Re: forth to drive automated fast food machines "Rod Pemberton" <buzzoff@nonamewhichexists.cmm> - 2014-10-17 22:34 -0400
    Re: forth to drive automated fast food machines the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2014-11-08 23:30 -0800
      Re: forth to drive automated fast food machines "Rod Pemberton" <buzzoff@nonamewhichexists.cmm> - 2014-11-09 06:08 -0500

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