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Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud

From Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net>
Newsgroups uk.comp.os.linux, comp.os.linux.misc, uk.d-i-y
Subject Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud
Date 2015-03-05 07:55 +0000
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On 04/03/15 23:47, Theo Markettos wrote:
> In uk.d-i-y Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> wrote:
>> On 04/03/15 19:13, Dennis@home wrote:
>>> On 04/03/2015 18:55, Tim Watts wrote:
>>
>>>> Unless you know of an file manager app that does on the fly encryption?
>>>
>>> https://www.boxcryptor.com/en/onedrive
>>
>> Wow. Was not expecting that.
>>
>> That is actually a potentially serious nutcracker there.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> If not my entire media collection, that could be a good contender for
>> shared documents (finances, etc).
>
> As I see it there are two parts to the problem: storage and syncing.
>
> Storage is covered by the NAS.  That's the master copy, everything should
> migrate there.  You can nuke all the other copies in the world and you'll
> only lose the most recent changes.  You can do a bulk download
> quite easily over gigabit ethernet/wifi/USB/SATA.
>
> Tools like Google Drive, OneDrive and Dropbox aren't a good idea for the
> master copy: they're small and they're at the wrong end of the internet.
> They're also vulnerable to 'ransom risks': if they announce pricing for next
> month will be $500pm, what do you do?

+1 to that...

> Another risk is site failure: fotopic.net went under and it turned out the
> bandwidth bill for sucking all the photos off it was beyond the means of the
> company that had just called in the receiver because they had no money.
> Likewise Code Spaces got hacked and the attacker just deleted all their
> files - there was nothing left.  The message from this is that if a cloud
> provider goes under, it's simply gone, you don't get your data back.

And whilst Drive is *probably* not going away soon, Google have form for 
randomly pulling projects at short notice and for selling stuff on.

> However they could be useful for transit.  For instance, git is a nice
> protocol because every working copy contains a full copy of the history.
> That means I don't care if github goes under - I have everything locally.
> So github is simply a nice website for publishing the sources, and if github
> went away it wouldn't be much effort to republish elsewhere.
> If the files are encrypted you also don't need to worry about privacy
> (though metadata is still an issue, and always the devil is in the key
> management).
>
> So I could see how something like this could work - Dropbox et al are just a
> transit provider for sharing stuff back to base.  This also means they're a
> commodity conduit - if Dropbox are charging £silly, just switch to OneDrive
> (or whoever).  The one thing I don't see this doing is sending a request to
> the NAS saying 'please put file XXX in Dropbox so I can see it' - maybe
> there's a way round that.  Or maybe you just say 'you can only view the
> photos when you're at home'.

It would be fun to sniff the conversation between Drive and my computer 
- with a minimal client so I don't see all the web supporting stuff.

I *wonder* if it is something that could be reverse engineered into a 
home server...

>
> On the wider philosophical question, I found it depressing to read of an app
> for sending encrypted SMS where the developers are tightly wedded to the
> Google Play infrastructure, while seemingly not realising the tensions
> between these two directions:
> https://github.com/WhisperSystems/TextSecure/issues/127
> As that thread demonstrates the issue is somewhat complicated, but I'm not
> surprised that many mobile developers don't understand the risks.
> (That app developer has softened their position somewhat in later posts)
>
> Theo
>

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Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-04 13:14 +0000
  Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> - 2015-03-04 15:15 +0100
    Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-03-04 14:19 +0000
    Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-04 14:32 +0000
      Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2015-03-04 08:53 -0600
        Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-04 15:08 +0000
          Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Kirk_Von_Rockstein <Kirk_Von_Rockstein@nowhere.invalid> - 2015-03-05 20:11 +0000
          Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud ruben safir <ruben@mrbrklyn.com> - 2015-03-12 03:12 -0400
            Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-12 08:24 +0000
              Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn@panix.com> - 2015-03-12 19:07 +0000
      Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-03-04 09:57 -0500
        Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-04 15:10 +0000
          Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-03-04 11:57 -0500
            Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-04 17:14 +0000
              Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud John Rumm <see.my.signature@nowhere.null> - 2015-03-23 10:47 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud The Real Doctor <ian.groups@btinternet.com> - 2015-03-23 12:08 +0000
        Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud HarpingOn <postmaster@127.0.0.1> - 2015-03-04 15:11 +0000
          Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-04 15:22 +0000
      Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-03-04 15:36 +0000
      Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "Dennis@home" <dennis@nowhere.invalid> - 2015-03-04 17:07 +0000
        Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-04 17:15 +0000
          Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "Dennis@home" <dennis@nowhere.invalid> - 2015-03-04 18:43 +0000
            Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-04 18:55 +0000
              Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "Dennis@home" <dennis@nowhere.invalid> - 2015-03-04 19:13 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-04 19:48 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Theo Markettos <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2015-03-04 23:47 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-05 07:55 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2015-03-05 09:53 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Theo Markettos <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2015-03-05 12:09 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-05 14:19 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "Dennis@home" <dennis@nowhere.invalid> - 2015-03-05 19:27 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2015-03-05 22:04 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2015-03-05 10:04 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-05 12:28 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Theo Markettos <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2015-03-05 13:00 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Theo Markettos <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2015-03-05 11:50 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-03-20 14:24 -0400
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Joe Beanfish <joebeanfish@nospam.duh> - 2015-03-22 15:05 +0000
          Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-03-04 14:51 -0500
            Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-04 20:16 +0000
              Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "John F" <j@j.ii> - 2015-03-10 14:44 -0700
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-03-11 17:45 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2015-03-11 14:15 -0500
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "John F" <j@j.ii> - 2015-03-11 15:42 -0700
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-11 23:26 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-03-12 18:17 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Adrian <toomany2cvs@gmail.com> - 2015-03-12 07:47 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "John F" <j@j.ii> - 2015-03-12 12:23 -0700
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "john james" <jj9801@nospam.com> - 2015-03-13 07:19 +1100
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "Dennis@home" <dennis@nowhere.invalid> - 2015-03-12 08:22 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Folderol <general@musically.me.uk> - 2015-03-12 09:14 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-03-12 09:39 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Adrian <toomany2cvs@gmail.com> - 2015-03-12 09:42 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-03-12 16:59 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Adrian <toomany2cvs@gmail.com> - 2015-03-12 17:20 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2015-03-12 12:49 -0500
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-03-12 19:03 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-12 10:12 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-03-12 18:17 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "john james" <jj9801@nospam.com> - 2015-03-13 07:13 +1100
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-03-12 20:50 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2015-03-12 16:08 -0500
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-12 21:24 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Capitol <spam@wher.eva.co.uk> - 2015-03-12 22:00 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud ImperiusDamian <damianblack.wolf@gmail.com> - 2015-03-18 09:13 -0400
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2015-03-19 02:43 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-03-20 14:30 -0400
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "Dennis@home" <dennis@nowhere.invalid> - 2015-03-12 20:00 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Nigel Wade <nmw@ion.le.ac.uk> - 2015-03-12 09:47 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-03-12 09:38 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-03-12 09:43 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Daniel James <daniel@me.invalid> - 2015-03-12 10:50 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "John F" <j@j.ii> - 2015-03-12 15:25 -0700
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "Dennis@home" <dennis@nowhere.invalid> - 2015-03-13 08:19 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-03-13 12:43 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "Dennis@home" <dennis@nowhere.invalid> - 2015-03-13 19:39 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-03-14 02:12 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-03-13 15:13 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Folderol <general@musically.me.uk> - 2015-03-13 16:53 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "Dennis@home" <dennis@nowhere.invalid> - 2015-03-13 19:30 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Daniel James <daniel@me.invalid> - 2015-03-14 13:00 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-14 14:48 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-03-14 16:43 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-14 17:58 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-03-14 22:41 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-03-14 18:20 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "Dennis@home" <dennis@nowhere.invalid> - 2015-03-14 19:34 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-03-14 22:43 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-03-20 14:53 -0400
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Daniel James <daniel@me.invalid> - 2015-03-15 13:34 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Folderol <general@musically.me.uk> - 2015-03-15 15:41 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-03-15 18:40 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-03-16 15:35 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Theo Markettos <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2015-03-16 15:45 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "Dennis@home" <dennis@nowhere.invalid> - 2015-03-16 16:21 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Andy Burns <usenet.feb2014@adslpipe.co.uk> - 2015-03-16 19:05 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-03-16 21:40 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-03-17 15:00 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Nigel Wade <nmw@ion.le.ac.uk> - 2015-03-12 11:17 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-03-12 12:03 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Stan Bischof <stan@worldbadminton.com> - 2015-03-12 16:28 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-03-12 20:35 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2015-03-11 22:52 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-03-12 18:17 +0000
      Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud ruben safir <ruben@mrbrklyn.com> - 2015-03-12 02:51 -0400
        Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-12 08:21 +0000
          Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn@panix.com> - 2015-03-12 19:09 +0000
  Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud HarpingOn <postmaster@127.0.0.1> - 2015-03-04 15:10 +0000
    Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-04 15:19 +0000
      Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Theo Markettos <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2015-03-04 15:54 +0000
        Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-04 16:10 +0000
          Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Daniel James <daniel@me.invalid> - 2015-03-05 11:20 +0000
            Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-05 12:29 +0000
  Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-04 18:56 +0000
  Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-03-05 00:33 +0000
  Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud 7 <email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_com@enemygadgets.com> - 2015-03-05 22:46 +0000
    Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-06 08:07 +0000
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        Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-14 14:47 +0000
          Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "john james" <jj9801@nospam.com> - 2015-03-15 05:40 +1100
            Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-14 18:51 +0000
              Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "john james" <jj9801@nospam.com> - 2015-03-15 06:12 +1100
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-14 19:23 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "john james" <jj9801@nospam.com> - 2015-03-15 06:27 +1100
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-14 22:00 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "john james" <jj9801@nospam.com> - 2015-03-15 11:22 +1100
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-03-15 09:10 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tony Houghton <h@realh.co.uk> - 2015-03-15 00:08 +0000
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            Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-03-16 07:46 +0000
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                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "John F" <j@j.ii> - 2015-03-17 16:17 -0700
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                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "John F" <j@j.ii> - 2015-03-18 09:02 -0700
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