Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD

From	"Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.forth
Subject	Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD
Date	2014-02-16 09:48 +0000
Organization	A noiseless patient Spider
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on 16/02/2014 03:34:16,  wrote:
> On Saturday, February 15, 2014 8:10:41 PM UTC-7, henry...@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>> >
> > wrote:
>> > You want to convert an abbreviation string such as "SIMVA20" into a rea
> wrote: dable string such as "Simvastatin 20mg." Look in
> ASSOCIATION.4TH for code t o do this. An association is a data
> structure that associates one string wi th another. Each node would
> contain two fields: the key field (SIMVA20) and the associated field
> (Simvastatin 20mg.).
> 
>> Hi Hugh --
>>
>>  I did look into your code - it's kind of hard to grok, from where I'm st
> anding.
>>  I did find a nice list implementation, from (Peter?) Salvi:
>>  https://www.iit.bme.hu/~salvi/archive/snippets/linked-list.html
>>
>>  Are you aware of it? It looks pretty nice.
> 
> I feel confident that anything that I write will be far ahead of
> anything t hat anybody else might write, so I never bother to look at
> other people's c ode at all.

Programmers the world over at laughing. At you. 

> 
> My stuff is actually pretty simple and easy --- don't give up too
> easily! T o grok ASSOCIATION.4TH you need to grok LLRB trees, and I
> found that diffic ult myself. You don't really need to grok
> ASSOCIATION.4TH to use it though --- just learn how to build a tree,
> look up nodes, traverse subsections, an d so forth, without
> necessarily grokking the internal workings.
> 
> Linked lists are so simple that you can grok them without difficulty
> --- st art by learning LIST.4TH and totally grokking it, then upgrade
> to ASSOCIATI ON.4TH which is used very similarly although the internal
> workings are comp letely different.
> 

This is the umpteyuth time you've stated that you make no effort to read
other's code or validate your technques against other's techniques -- yet
you repeatedly insist that "novices" will find your code of use. The
evidence runs contrary to your assertions.

You and I have had a long discussion about the poor quality of the
implementation of popular sorts you wrote in your novice package, where
you have serious misunderstandings of how pointers work. You and others
have had discussions about how you didn't invented a tree you called a
"symtab", because it was well understood years before you dropped off the
teat; and how you encouraged novices to use it inappropriately because
its performane sucked.

I would advise caution before using your code.

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How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hank.lenzi@gmail.com - 2014-02-08 18:26 -0800
  Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-02-09 12:18 +0000
    Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-02-09 20:00 -0800
      Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hank.lenzi@gmail.com - 2014-02-13 15:47 -0800
  Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-02-09 13:02 +0000
    Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-02-09 13:12 +0000
  Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2014-02-09 08:48 -0800
    Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD henry.lenzi@gmail.com - 2014-02-11 16:22 -0800
    Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD henry.lenzi@gmail.com - 2014-02-11 16:22 -0800
  Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-02-09 08:47 -1000
    Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-02-09 18:13 -0800
      Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2014-02-10 02:27 -0800
        Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-02-14 01:20 -0800
          Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2014-02-18 14:14 -0800
            Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-02-18 20:11 -0800
              Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2014-02-19 06:56 -0800
            Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-02-18 21:17 -0800
      Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD Steve <jsgrahamus@yahoo.com> - 2014-02-10 19:29 +0000
        Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-02-14 01:34 -0800
      Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD henry.lenzi@gmail.com - 2014-02-11 16:25 -0800
    Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD henry.lenzi@gmail.com - 2014-02-11 16:59 -0800
      Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-02-11 16:58 -1000
        Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD henry.lenzi@gmail.com - 2014-02-12 16:07 -0800
          Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-12 16:46 -0800
            Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-12 16:47 -0800
              Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hank.lenzi@gmail.com - 2014-02-13 15:53 -0800
            Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hank.lenzi@gmail.com - 2014-02-13 15:52 -0800
          Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-02-12 14:32 -1000
            Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hank.lenzi@gmail.com - 2014-02-12 17:13 -0800
              Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-12 18:56 -0800
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-02-13 08:40 +0000
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hank.lenzi@gmail.com - 2014-02-13 17:16 -0800
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hank.lenzi@gmail.com - 2014-02-13 16:32 -0800
              Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-02-14 01:11 -0800
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hank.lenzi@gmail.com - 2014-02-15 12:15 -0800
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-02-15 17:35 -0800
              Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-02-14 12:02 -0800
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hank.lenzi@gmail.com - 2014-02-15 12:57 -0800
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-02-15 18:12 -0800
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD henry.lenzi@gmail.com - 2014-02-15 19:10 -0800
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-02-15 19:34 -0800
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2014-02-16 09:48 +0000
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-02-16 03:21 -0800
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-02-17 12:38 +0000
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2014-02-17 08:09 -0600
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2014-02-17 19:32 +0100
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2014-02-17 14:53 +0000
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-02-17 20:48 -0800
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2014-02-18 16:21 +0000
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD Roelf Toxopeus <rt4all@notthis.hetnet.nl> - 2014-02-16 09:32 +0100
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-02-16 03:07 -0800
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD Alexander Skobelev <al.skobelev@gmail.com> - 2014-02-16 10:09 -0800
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-02-16 15:39 -0800
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hank.lenzi@gmail.com - 2014-02-17 19:54 -0800
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-02-17 19:51 -1000
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hank.lenzi@gmail.com - 2014-02-18 16:40 -0800
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD humptydumpty <ouatubi@gmail.com> - 2014-02-18 11:44 -0800
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hank.lenzi@gmail.com - 2014-02-18 15:18 -0800
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2014-02-18 14:48 -0800
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hank.lenzi@gmail.com - 2014-02-18 16:00 -0800
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-02-19 01:01 +0000
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hank.lenzi@gmail.com - 2014-02-18 18:11 -0800
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hank.lenzi@gmail.com - 2014-02-18 18:19 -0800
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD humptydumpty <ouatubi@gmail.com> - 2014-02-19 11:41 -0800
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hank.lenzi@gmail.com - 2014-02-19 16:24 -0800
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-02-19 23:08 -0800
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2014-02-20 13:11 +0000
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-02-20 21:10 -0800
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD humptydumpty <ouatubi@gmail.com> - 2014-02-20 22:42 -0800
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-02-21 22:16 -0800
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD humptydumpty <ouatubi@gmail.com> - 2014-02-20 12:04 -0800
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2014-02-19 07:45 +0000
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-02-19 20:10 +0000
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2014-02-19 22:25 +0000
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-02-20 12:10 +0000
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2014-02-20 13:10 +0000
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-02-20 17:11 +0000
              Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-02-15 16:34 -1000
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-02-15 19:06 -0800
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD henry.lenzi@gmail.com - 2014-02-15 19:22 -0800
            Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnohavenotit.cnm> - 2014-02-13 02:56 -0500
              Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-02-12 22:13 -1000
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-02-13 08:56 +0000
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-02-13 11:57 +0000
          Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnohavenotit.cnm> - 2014-02-13 02:56 -0500
      Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-02-12 14:56 +0000
        Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD mhx@iae.nl - 2014-02-12 11:24 -0800
        Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD henry.lenzi@gmail.com - 2014-02-12 15:48 -0800
          Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-12 16:18 -0800
            Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hank.lenzi@gmail.com - 2014-02-12 17:39 -0800
          Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2014-02-13 01:41 +0100
            Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD Hank Lenzi <henry.lenzi@gmail.com> - 2014-02-12 17:25 -0800
              Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2014-02-14 01:25 +0100
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hank.lenzi@gmail.com - 2014-02-13 17:03 -0800
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-02-14 02:41 +0000
          Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD stephenXXX@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2014-02-13 12:40 +0000
    Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD henry.lenzi@gmail.com - 2014-02-11 17:41 -0800
  Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD Mark Wills <markrobertwills@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-02-10 02:32 -0800
    Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD henry.lenzi@gmail.com - 2014-02-11 17:23 -0800
    Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hank.lenzi@gmail.com - 2014-02-13 15:49 -0800
  Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2014-02-12 20:50 -0800
    Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hank.lenzi@gmail.com - 2014-02-13 16:38 -0800
  Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-02-15 19:20 -0800
    Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD henry.lenzi@gmail.com - 2014-02-15 19:23 -0800

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