Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD

From	Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.forth
Subject	Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD
Date	2014-02-19 07:45 +0000
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On 19/02/2014 01:01, Albert van der Horst wrote:
> In article <f2ed5b12-6c7b-459c-9415-6038f64252d3@googlegroups.com>,
>   <hank.lenzi@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 7:48:12 PM UTC-3, Julian Fondren wrote:
>>> On Monday, February 17, 2014 9:54:16 PM UTC-6, hank....@gmail.com wrote:
>>>

[...]

>> Let me see if I expand on what I was thinking in a clear way: I thought
>> REFILL would capture, e.g., "CAPT25 30P 1PD" (all valid words in my
>> software), as a whole *line*.

It will if you type it in as a whole line. (unless you use ciforth - see 
below).

>
> The word you're looking for is ACCEPT, in older Forth's EXPECT.
> It waits until the user has completed a line.

As does REFILL in a properly implemented system.

>
> CREATE MY-BUFFER 80 ALLOT
> MY-BUFFER DUP 80 ACCEPT    ( -- address u)
>

That's an acceptable alternative to REFILL but has the drawback that you 
can't easily use WORD or PARSE on the returned string.

> If your system has a file descriptor 0 for standard input, it is almost
> the same than
> MY-BUFFER DUP 80  0 READ-FILE THROW
> "get me at most 80 characters to MY-BUFFER from the input stream."
>
> [ REFILL is used by the system to get the next line to compile (or interpret).
> It is used internally by WORD as per:
> "Gosh, nothing on this line. Let's get another one before parsing a word."

Nonsense, in ANS Forth WORD does *not* fetch another line of input if 
there is nothing left to parse, it simply returns an empty string. If 
ciforth's WORD fetches more input it is non-standard

>
> REFILL is a somewhat obscure word.

Nonsense, nothing obscure about it. It fetches a line of input from the 
current input source if that source can supply it.

You don't need it. ciforth has
>    : REFILL FALSE ;
> and is doing just fine. ]
>

That is a useless definiton of REFILL. ciforth can clearly accept 
console input otherwise ACCEPT wouldn't work - so what's the logic 
behind REFILL telling a lie?

-- 
Gerry

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How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hank.lenzi@gmail.com - 2014-02-08 18:26 -0800
  Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-02-09 12:18 +0000
    Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-02-09 20:00 -0800
      Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hank.lenzi@gmail.com - 2014-02-13 15:47 -0800
  Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-02-09 13:02 +0000
    Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-02-09 13:12 +0000
  Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2014-02-09 08:48 -0800
    Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD henry.lenzi@gmail.com - 2014-02-11 16:22 -0800
    Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD henry.lenzi@gmail.com - 2014-02-11 16:22 -0800
  Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-02-09 08:47 -1000
    Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-02-09 18:13 -0800
      Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2014-02-10 02:27 -0800
        Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-02-14 01:20 -0800
          Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2014-02-18 14:14 -0800
            Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-02-18 20:11 -0800
              Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2014-02-19 06:56 -0800
            Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-02-18 21:17 -0800
      Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD Steve <jsgrahamus@yahoo.com> - 2014-02-10 19:29 +0000
        Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-02-14 01:34 -0800
      Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD henry.lenzi@gmail.com - 2014-02-11 16:25 -0800
    Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD henry.lenzi@gmail.com - 2014-02-11 16:59 -0800
      Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-02-11 16:58 -1000
        Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD henry.lenzi@gmail.com - 2014-02-12 16:07 -0800
          Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-12 16:46 -0800
            Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-12 16:47 -0800
              Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hank.lenzi@gmail.com - 2014-02-13 15:53 -0800
            Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hank.lenzi@gmail.com - 2014-02-13 15:52 -0800
          Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-02-12 14:32 -1000
            Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hank.lenzi@gmail.com - 2014-02-12 17:13 -0800
              Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-12 18:56 -0800
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-02-13 08:40 +0000
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hank.lenzi@gmail.com - 2014-02-13 17:16 -0800
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hank.lenzi@gmail.com - 2014-02-13 16:32 -0800
              Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-02-14 01:11 -0800
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hank.lenzi@gmail.com - 2014-02-15 12:15 -0800
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-02-15 17:35 -0800
              Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-02-14 12:02 -0800
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hank.lenzi@gmail.com - 2014-02-15 12:57 -0800
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-02-15 18:12 -0800
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD henry.lenzi@gmail.com - 2014-02-15 19:10 -0800
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-02-15 19:34 -0800
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2014-02-16 09:48 +0000
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-02-16 03:21 -0800
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-02-17 12:38 +0000
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2014-02-17 08:09 -0600
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2014-02-17 19:32 +0100
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2014-02-17 14:53 +0000
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-02-17 20:48 -0800
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2014-02-18 16:21 +0000
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD Roelf Toxopeus <rt4all@notthis.hetnet.nl> - 2014-02-16 09:32 +0100
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-02-16 03:07 -0800
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD Alexander Skobelev <al.skobelev@gmail.com> - 2014-02-16 10:09 -0800
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-02-16 15:39 -0800
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hank.lenzi@gmail.com - 2014-02-17 19:54 -0800
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-02-17 19:51 -1000
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hank.lenzi@gmail.com - 2014-02-18 16:40 -0800
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD humptydumpty <ouatubi@gmail.com> - 2014-02-18 11:44 -0800
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hank.lenzi@gmail.com - 2014-02-18 15:18 -0800
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2014-02-18 14:48 -0800
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hank.lenzi@gmail.com - 2014-02-18 16:00 -0800
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-02-19 01:01 +0000
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hank.lenzi@gmail.com - 2014-02-18 18:11 -0800
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hank.lenzi@gmail.com - 2014-02-18 18:19 -0800
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD humptydumpty <ouatubi@gmail.com> - 2014-02-19 11:41 -0800
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hank.lenzi@gmail.com - 2014-02-19 16:24 -0800
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-02-19 23:08 -0800
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2014-02-20 13:11 +0000
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-02-20 21:10 -0800
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD humptydumpty <ouatubi@gmail.com> - 2014-02-20 22:42 -0800
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-02-21 22:16 -0800
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD humptydumpty <ouatubi@gmail.com> - 2014-02-20 12:04 -0800
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2014-02-19 07:45 +0000
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-02-19 20:10 +0000
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2014-02-19 22:25 +0000
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-02-20 12:10 +0000
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2014-02-20 13:10 +0000
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-02-20 17:11 +0000
              Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-02-15 16:34 -1000
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-02-15 19:06 -0800
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD henry.lenzi@gmail.com - 2014-02-15 19:22 -0800
            Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnohavenotit.cnm> - 2014-02-13 02:56 -0500
              Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-02-12 22:13 -1000
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-02-13 08:56 +0000
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-02-13 11:57 +0000
          Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnohavenotit.cnm> - 2014-02-13 02:56 -0500
      Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-02-12 14:56 +0000
        Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD mhx@iae.nl - 2014-02-12 11:24 -0800
        Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD henry.lenzi@gmail.com - 2014-02-12 15:48 -0800
          Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-12 16:18 -0800
            Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hank.lenzi@gmail.com - 2014-02-12 17:39 -0800
          Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2014-02-13 01:41 +0100
            Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD Hank Lenzi <henry.lenzi@gmail.com> - 2014-02-12 17:25 -0800
              Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2014-02-14 01:25 +0100
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hank.lenzi@gmail.com - 2014-02-13 17:03 -0800
                Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-02-14 02:41 +0000
          Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD stephenXXX@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2014-02-13 12:40 +0000
    Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD henry.lenzi@gmail.com - 2014-02-11 17:41 -0800
  Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD Mark Wills <markrobertwills@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-02-10 02:32 -0800
    Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD henry.lenzi@gmail.com - 2014-02-11 17:23 -0800
    Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hank.lenzi@gmail.com - 2014-02-13 15:49 -0800
  Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2014-02-12 20:50 -0800
    Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hank.lenzi@gmail.com - 2014-02-13 16:38 -0800
  Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-02-15 19:20 -0800
    Re: How to get an address for a string by direct user input without using PAD henry.lenzi@gmail.com - 2014-02-15 19:23 -0800

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