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Re: structure and interpretation of computer programs exercsie 1.3 in forth

Date 2013-01-26 12:40 -1000
From "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com>
Organization FORTH, Inc.
Newsgroups comp.lang.forth
Subject Re: structure and interpretation of computer programs exercsie 1.3 in forth
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On 1/26/13 11:49 AM, Paul Rubin wrote:
> "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> writes:
>> Having looked at it, I can confidently assert that jsforth is
>> considerably larger than a standalone Forth, and I'm not sure how you
>> measure "straightforward" but this source looks pretty complex to me.
>
> Jsforth is about 4000 SLOC and 150k bytes of source (around 25% of that
> is comments), which admittedly is more than I remembered.  eForth is a
> bit smaller though I think it doesn't do as much.  Jsforth is
> straightforward in the sense that I could read through it and understand
> what it was doing.  The ANS Forth standard is in some ways harder to
> read.  I remember thinking that examining Jsforth seemed like a good way
> to demystify the parts of ANS Forth that I currently don't understand.
>

It's really hard to compare without knowing exactly the extent of 
capabilities covered (CORE, optional wordsets, utilities, programmer 
aids, etc.), but the standalone Forths I worked with took <3,000 sloc 
for the metacompiler, kernel including device drivers, and most 
utilities and programmer aids (editor, dumps, source management, disk 
utilities, etc.).

Hosted systems, of course, are much bigger because of the cost of 
dealing with the OS.

Cheers,
Elizabeth

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