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Hi Dimiter,

On 8/29/2013 3:44 PM, dp wrote:
> On Friday, August 30, 2013 12:25:10 AM UTC+3, Don Y wrote:

>> [I sent you a msg a week or two ago... perhaps wrong email addr?]
>
> Never got one. It is possible if you have sent it to the address I use
> to post here (dp@... ) that I have just overlooked it, I get a few
> hundred messages/day on it, almost all spam. Use some of the others
> if that's the case or please just retry it, me not seeing it is very
> low chance even at this address.

I forwarded a copy just now.  Nothing important.  Just FYI...

>> E.g., to number consecutive lines, you simply point down
>> and type "012345678901234567890...".  Then, move left a column
>> and invoke "repeat 10 X" (where X is 0, then 1, then 2, etc.)
>
> Well it is a way of doing it of course. My way is to make the first
> ten lines manually, then copy it as many times as it takes, perhaps
> multiplied. I suppose your method would be a bit faster for 10-20
> lines, mine would probably be faster above that.

Yes.  As I said, I tend to just rely on using existing mechanisms
instead of having to "think" about how to approach it.  E.g., should
I write a piece of code to go through a file and substitute references
of
      <Figure XX: (continued on Page YY)>
with
      <Illustration XX: <italic>(see page YY)<\italic>>
or, should I do this with a keystroke macro inside a text editor?

> But these are things we rarely do anyway. It is important to have
> them easily available so editor inconveniences do not make us
> avoid doing what we really want to though.
> I suppose the little things are the great time savers though,
> like that move(scroll) 4 lines instead of one if shift is down,
> move to next/previous word, delete from cursor back to word start
> (that would be alt-left for me), delete from cursor until next
> word (alt-right), erase to EOL (ctrl-right) etc. etc., things
> we do hundreds if not thousands of times a day.

I find myself often hammering away on "up, left" (or down, etc.)
with my right hand while pecking at some other key with my left.
E.g., "$ up left" to insert a bunch of '$' in front a column of
monetary figures, etc.

You can actually get pretty good setting up a cadence if you do
it often!

>>>> Hope Lucy isn't reading over your shoulder!!  :>
>>>
>>> Hah, she would not mind that I am sure :D. She is pretty far
>>> from doing that sort of thing (but she is quite good at learning
>>> to use new gadgets).
>>
>> Isn't that a prerequisite, when living with an engineer?  :>
>
> Hmm, I am not sure which I would prefer :D . This way when a
> gadget (her laptop or the smartphone) is messed up in some
> way guess who has to be available to fix things. Come to think
> of it I am so used to being that guy that I don't even question
> if I have to do it, whoever it is I have to rescue :D .

Yes.  And, the expectation of *instant* service!

    "Gee, how did you deal with these sorts of problems AT WORK
    when you had to wait hours or days for someone to come and
    have a look at your machine?  Did you find OTHER THINGS TO
    DO while waiting? Or, did you sit and grumble about how long
    it was taking?"  :>

She now complains a lot less about all the kit I have stashed
around the house:
    "Don, my monitor just went black!"
    "OK, here's a new one.  I'll fix yours later..."

>> C complains each time I make some change in "how things work".  Of
>> course, I've only done so to *fix* something that wasn't working
>> properly at the time or to add some functionality -- often that
>> *she* requested!  :-/
>
> Well that sort of thing is similar here of course. Add to that that Lucy
> often has to cope with system popup messages in English which she
> more often than not does not understand... :D .

Ah.  You must learn to translate all of these into:

    "Total system failure.  Please turn the system off and wait at
    least 72 hours before attempting further use.  Error 788WQ3."

>> ("Why can't I get the DVD player to work?"  "Because you asked
>> me to hook up a VCR last night so you could watch that video
>> of your family!"  "Oh.  <shamed pause>  So, how do I get the
>> DVD to play, now?")
>
> Most of the time when I make that sort of changes Lucy is
> alert and watching me,

I usually do maintenance type things in the wee hours of the morning.
More convenient for my schedule.  And, I don't have to worry about
the "is it done, yet?" attitude.

>> P.S.  I will assume it is *finally* above 0C there?  :>
>> (we're *dropping* to the very high 30's)
>
> Tell me about it. Summer is going to an end, we had only 6-7 weeks
> of real summer (should have had 3-4 months). But it is still summerish,
> hopefully for some time more.

It seems like Summer started in February, here.  But, we have only
had ~50 days above 100F (average is 60 or so... 99 of them one
year!).  Of course, we'll probably *also* have a brutally cold
winter (for this area).  I'll have to take extra good care of the
new citrus plantings...

I can see how some folks like to have two "homes".  Though that
seems like it would be ripe for "Oh, crap!  The item I've spent the
past three days searching for must be at the *other* house!"  :-/

--don

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