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Re: Pascal and Relativity

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On 2023-08-19 17:17:48 +0000, patdolan said:

> On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 10:00:14 AM UTC-7, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
>> On 2023-08-19 16:44:24 +0000, patdolan said:>> > On Saturday, August 
>> 19, 2023 at 6:19:02 AM UTC-7, Python wrote:> >> patdolan wrote:> > 
>> Tomorrow is the 361st anniversary of the death of> >> Blaise Pascal.> 
>> >> > Dr. Hachel, would Pascal have accept relativity,> >> either yours 
>> or Einstein's?> >> Asking anything to Dr. Lengrand is only making sure 
>> to get a silly and>> >> stupid answer (and you got it). Whatever the 
>> subject is!>> Pascal may> >> have enjoyed to read Hachel/Lengrand 
>> psychotic rant, for> entertainment> >> value, you know? But he would 
>> also have considered> it for what it is:> >> a total messy nonsense 
>> produced by a backward> country doctor with a> >> huge narcissistic 
>> personality disorder in> addition to a disgusting> >> lack of Humanity 
>> (he enjoy that kids are> killed by the police, for> >> instance) and 
>> integrity (he publishes lie> upon lie).>> He would also> >> have had 
>> concerns on that such a charlatan is allowed> to practice> >> medicine 
>> in France.>> About Einstein Relativy, Blaise Pascal being a> >> 
>> brilliant geometer he> would have loved SR (and GR). He is one of the> 
>> >> founder, along with> Desargues and others, a marvelous kind of> >> 
>> geometry: Projective> Geometry. There, all pairs of lines intersect,> 
>> >> there is no kind of> distances between points (but there is a> >> 
>> topology), there you can> permute the word "lines" and "points" (as> >> 
>> well as "intersects" and "are> aligned") to produce true theorems from> 
>> >> others proven theorems (this is> called "Pascal's duality"), three> 
>> >> points on a plane have three> coordinates (called "homogeneous> >> 
>> coordinates"), etc.>>> >> 
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Projective_geometry>>> >> 
>> https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%A9om%C3%A9trie_projective>> Pascal> 
>> >> would have loved to discover how this generalizes to complex>> >> 
>> coordinates, he would have loved also Minkowsky's geometry (something>> 
>> >> that our stupid doctor Hachel despises, while not understanding it,> 
>> as> >> usual) as it is basically a physical application of hyperbolic>> 
>> >> geometry. Conics everywhere! He would have loved that!>> But you 
>> are> >> already lost, aren't you Pat?>> Another fun fact about Pascal: 
>> during> >> the XIXth century a scammer> made up false letters "proving" 
>> that> >> Newton plagiarized Pascal. He> ended up convincing the 
>> mathematician> >> Chasles. This is especially> surprising when you look 
>> at their dates of> >> birth and death :> Pascal: 1623-1662, and Newton: 
>> 1642-1727!>> See:>>> >> https://www.jstor.org/stable/4028215>>> >> 
>> https://www.canalacademies.com/emissions/au-fil-des-pages/newton-a-t-il-plagie-pascal> 
>> >>> > Python, in contrast to PAB, I will continue to always read Dr. 
>> Hachel.> > I find Dr. Hachel to be one of the finest exports from 
>> France since> > French Fries.
>> French fries came from Belgium, but the Americans who invented that> 
>> name thought that Brussels was in France. If their successors had> 
>> realized they weren't actually French they wouldn't have had to rename> 
>> them Freedom fries when Jacques Chirac refused to support W's 
>> adventure> in Iraq. Even people (like me) who weren't keen on Chirac in 
>> general> were overwhelmingly on his side on that issue.
>>> I will have a look at your several interesting links. Mathematic is> > 
>>> almost as wonderful a tool for composing fiction as English prose. As> 
>>> > for his idiosyncrasies, they obviously point to his direct descent 
>>> from> > the Emperor.> > Corollary to "every pair of lines intersect" -- 
>>> the tangents to every> > pair of lines are parallel at some point.
>> --
>> athel -- biochemist, not a physicist, but detector of crackpots
> Well then Athel, you are a Trump man now, oui?

Golly. You're even crazier than I already realized. I won't bother to 
comment on the raving below.

>   45 was against the Iraq invasion, as am I (now but not then).  Iraq 
> was the DC deep state swamp at its filthiest.  When you see the poor 
> legless, armless, faceless veterans (not to mention the dead ones) 
> patriotic citizen soldiers who sacrificed so much just so both R and D 
> swamp creatures could get hefty campaign contributions for the defense 
> contractor, it now sickens me.
> And of course, Athel, you are a Trump man because of Ukraine, oui?  
> Trump prevented that war from happening during his first term and has 
> promised to end it in the first 24 hours of his administration.  And 
> Tump has never failed to keep a campaign promise.  Joe, Mitch and the 
> Swamp are hellbent to escalate to nukes.  You are closer to ground zero 
> than me.  When they hose your vaporize ashes off the ground, do you 
> know what crooked Joe will say? Same response as Lahaina, "No comment"


-- 
athel -- biochemist, not a physicist, but detector of crackpots

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Pascal and Relativity patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-08-18 11:53 -0700
  Re: Pascal and Relativity Richard Hachel <r.hachel@frite.fr> - 2023-08-18 20:23 +0000
    Re: Pascal and Relativity "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2023-08-19 09:51 +0200
      Re: Pascal and Relativity Richard Hachel <r.hachel@frite.fr> - 2023-08-19 12:08 +0000
  Re: Pascal and Relativity Python <python@invalid.org> - 2023-08-19 15:18 +0200
    Re: Pascal and Relativity Python <python@invalid.org> - 2023-08-19 15:30 +0200
    Re: Pascal and Relativity Emilio Zhimerin <znzi@rriemrom.ii> - 2023-08-19 13:40 +0000
    Re: Pascal and Relativity patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-08-19 09:44 -0700
      Re: Pascal and Relativity Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 19:00 +0200
        Re: Pascal and Relativity "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 10:08 -0700
          Re: Pascal and Relativity nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-19 21:35 +0200
            Re: Pascal and Relativity patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-08-19 13:11 -0700
              Re: Pascal and Relativity Richard Hachel <r.hachel@frite.fr> - 2023-08-20 17:40 +0000
            Re: Pascal and Relativity "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 11:06 -0700
        Re: Pascal and Relativity patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-08-19 10:17 -0700
          Re: Pascal and Relativity Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 19:24 +0200
        Re: Pascal and Relativity Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-21 10:20 -0400
          Re: Pascal and Relativity nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-21 18:03 +0200
            Re: Pascal and Relativity patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-08-21 09:46 -0700
          Re: Pascal and Relativity Samsath Grosse <ohsh@smahhhas.ma> - 2023-08-23 09:58 +0000

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