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Re: Pascal and Relativity

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On 2023-08-19 16:44:24 +0000, patdolan said:

> On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 6:19:02 AM UTC-7, Python wrote:
>> patdolan wrote:> > Tomorrow is the 361st anniversary of the death of 
>> Blaise Pascal.> >> > Dr. Hachel, would Pascal have accept relativity, 
>> either yours or Einstein's?
>> Asking anything to Dr. Lengrand is only making sure to get a silly and> 
>> stupid answer (and you got it). Whatever the subject is!>> Pascal may 
>> have enjoyed to read Hachel/Lengrand psychotic rant, for> entertainment 
>> value, you know? But he would also have considered> it for what it is: 
>> a total messy nonsense produced by a backward> country doctor with a 
>> huge narcissistic personality disorder in> addition to a disgusting 
>> lack of Humanity (he enjoy that kids are> killed by the police, for 
>> instance) and integrity (he publishes lie> upon lie).>> He would also 
>> have had concerns on that such a charlatan is allowed> to practice 
>> medicine in France.>> About Einstein Relativy, Blaise Pascal being a 
>> brilliant geometer he> would have loved SR (and GR). He is one of the 
>> founder, along with> Desargues and others, a marvelous kind of 
>> geometry: Projective> Geometry. There, all pairs of lines intersect, 
>> there is no kind of> distances between points (but there is a 
>> topology), there you can> permute the word "lines" and "points" (as 
>> well as "intersects" and "are> aligned") to produce true theorems from 
>> others proven theorems (this is> called "Pascal's duality"), three 
>> points on a plane have three> coordinates (called "homogeneous 
>> coordinates"), etc.>> 
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Projective_geometry>> 
>> https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%A9om%C3%A9trie_projective>> Pascal 
>> would have loved to discover how this generalizes to complex> 
>> coordinates, he would have loved also Minkowsky's geometry (something> 
>> that our stupid doctor Hachel despises, while not understanding it,> as 
>> usual) as it is basically a physical application of hyperbolic> 
>> geometry. Conics everywhere! He would have loved that!>> But you are 
>> already lost, aren't you Pat?>> Another fun fact about Pascal: during 
>> the XIXth century a scammer> made up false letters "proving" that 
>> Newton plagiarized Pascal. He> ended up convincing the mathematician 
>> Chasles. This is especially> surprising when you look at their dates of 
>> birth and death :> Pascal: 1623-1662, and Newton: 1642-1727!>> See:>> 
>> https://www.jstor.org/stable/4028215>> 
>> https://www.canalacademies.com/emissions/au-fil-des-pages/newton-a-t-il-plagie-pascal 
>> 
> Python, in contrast to PAB, I will continue to always read Dr. Hachel.  
> I find Dr. Hachel to be one of the finest exports from France since 
> French Fries.

French fries came from Belgium, but the Americans who invented that 
name thought that Brussels was in France. If their successors had 
realized they weren't actually French they wouldn't have had to rename 
them Freedom fries when Jacques Chirac refused to support W's adventure 
in Iraq. Even people (like me) who weren't keen on Chirac in general 
were overwhelmingly on his side on that issue.

>   I will have a look at your several interesting links. Mathematic is 
> almost as wonderful a tool for composing fiction as English prose.  As 
> for his idiosyncrasies, they obviously point to his direct descent from 
> the Emperor.
> Corollary to "every pair of lines intersect" -- the tangents to every 
> pair of lines are parallel at some point.


-- 
athel -- biochemist, not a physicist, but detector of crackpots

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Pascal and Relativity patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-08-18 11:53 -0700
  Re: Pascal and Relativity Richard Hachel <r.hachel@frite.fr> - 2023-08-18 20:23 +0000
    Re: Pascal and Relativity "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2023-08-19 09:51 +0200
      Re: Pascal and Relativity Richard Hachel <r.hachel@frite.fr> - 2023-08-19 12:08 +0000
  Re: Pascal and Relativity Python <python@invalid.org> - 2023-08-19 15:18 +0200
    Re: Pascal and Relativity Python <python@invalid.org> - 2023-08-19 15:30 +0200
    Re: Pascal and Relativity Emilio Zhimerin <znzi@rriemrom.ii> - 2023-08-19 13:40 +0000
    Re: Pascal and Relativity patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-08-19 09:44 -0700
      Re: Pascal and Relativity Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 19:00 +0200
        Re: Pascal and Relativity "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 10:08 -0700
          Re: Pascal and Relativity nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-19 21:35 +0200
            Re: Pascal and Relativity patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-08-19 13:11 -0700
              Re: Pascal and Relativity Richard Hachel <r.hachel@frite.fr> - 2023-08-20 17:40 +0000
            Re: Pascal and Relativity "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 11:06 -0700
        Re: Pascal and Relativity patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-08-19 10:17 -0700
          Re: Pascal and Relativity Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 19:24 +0200
        Re: Pascal and Relativity Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-21 10:20 -0400
          Re: Pascal and Relativity nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-21 18:03 +0200
            Re: Pascal and Relativity patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-08-21 09:46 -0700
          Re: Pascal and Relativity Samsath Grosse <ohsh@smahhhas.ma> - 2023-08-23 09:58 +0000

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