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Re: plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut

From Unknown <dog@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.hardware, comp.sys.raspberry-pi
Subject Re: plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut
Date 2013-04-07 16:42 +0000
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID <kjs7l6$5vq$1@dont-email.me> (permalink)
References (5 earlier) <alpine.LNX.2.02.1304042116220.1608@darkstar.example.org> <kjp3pd$k65$1@speranza.aioe.org> <5k60m8h413hq0s097fto0ll2jlh96mlehr@4ax.com> <uf8v4v5sji.fsf@brushtail.apana.org.au> <alpine.LNX.2.02.1304062015410.5874@darkstar.example.org>

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On Sat, 06 Apr 2013 20:23:56 -0400, someone wrote:

> I'm actually hoping a Usenet group /would/ be something off-road from
> the existing RPi world.. The reason the webforums suck so much is
> they're full of hopeless mouthbreathers-- "hAY gUISE! eVEN tHOUGH tHE
> rASPBERRY pIE hAS bEEN sPAMMED aCROSS tHE bLOGOSPHERE aND tECHNEWS
> sIGHTS cONSTANTLY fOR tHE lAST tWO yEARS, i'VE oNLY jUST hEARD oF tHEM!!
> ... i'M 52, aND i wAnt tO gET iNTO cOMPUTERS!"
>
> Another thing that sucks about webforums is the heavy censorship on
> negative opinions, such as pointlessly expensive shit like the Gertboard
> and other ManToys that don't even try to hide the cost that totally
> excludes them from the Foundation's supposed charter of getting
> teenagers into self-directed programming. (/SMD/ soldering?)

Yes, perhaps that's inevitable since it's privately owned/controlled.
So I THANK the persons who initiated this USEnet group.

One thing about ASKING and using some else's experience rather than
searching [on google] is that 1. rPi is new and not all questions
have been fielded yet; 2. even though the fact of serial-txt output
from the 'header pins' is listed somewhere already in the docos;
in my case I didn't REMEMBER that RS232 is not just TTL-levels.
So it seems to me that directly connecting to a PC-ser-port is not 
feasible. But I expect the rPi's 3.3V to be able to drive a parallel
port [perhaps 4?5 bits wide].

Another interesting observation, is that no one will reply to my
query "if scratch/squeak CAN write scenarios/action-sequences,
which will demonstrate the alternate/[IFThenElse] and looping
constructs?". I haven't got access to a running rPi lately.

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plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut Avoid9Pdf@gmail.com - 2013-04-02 14:36 +0000
  Kernel console output on the serial port for headless rPi J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2013-04-02 15:12 +0000
    Re: Kernel console output on the serial port for headless rPi Avoid9Pdf@gmail.com - 2013-04-03 05:35 +0000
      Re: Kernel console output on the serial port for headless rPi J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2013-04-03 12:04 +0000
        Re: Kernel console output on the serial port for headless rPi Unknown <dog@gmail.com> - 2013-04-03 17:56 +0000
          Re: Kernel console output on the serial port for headless rPi Gordon Henderson <gordon+usenet@drogon.net> - 2013-04-03 18:11 +0000
          Re: Kernel console output on the serial port for headless rPi J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2013-04-03 20:28 +0000
            Re: Kernel console output on the serial port for headless rPi Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2013-04-03 23:27 -0400
              Re: Kernel console output on the serial port for headless rPi Keith Keller <kkeller-usenet@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us> - 2013-04-03 21:35 -0700
                Re: Kernel console output on the serial port for headless rPi Jerry Peters <jerry@example.invalid> - 2013-04-04 20:15 +0000
              Re: Kernel console output on the serial port for headless rPi Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2013-04-04 08:36 -0400
                Re: Kernel console output on the serial port for headless rPi J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2013-04-04 13:59 +0000
                Re: Kernel console output on the serial port for headless rPi Unknown <dog@gmail.com> - 2013-04-05 07:53 +0000
                Re: Kernel console output on the serial port for headless rPi J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2013-04-05 15:50 +0000
                Re: Kernel console output on the serial port for headless rPi Keith Keller <kkeller-usenet@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us> - 2013-04-05 09:17 -0700
                Re: Kernel console output on the serial port for headless rPi Unknown <dog@gmail.com> - 2013-04-05 18:38 +0000
                Re: Kernel console output on the serial port for headless rPi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-04-05 19:57 +0100
                Re: Kernel console output on the serial port for headless rPi "Nick B." <nick@replytoisnot.invalid> - 2013-04-05 22:12 +0000
                Re: Kernel console output on the serial port for headless rPi J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2013-04-05 21:24 +0000
  Re: plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2013-04-02 13:43 -0400
    Re: plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut Avoid9Pdf@gmail.com - 2013-04-03 05:35 +0000
      Re: plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut Keith Keller <kkeller-usenet@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us> - 2013-04-02 23:02 -0700
        Re: plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut Unknown <dog@gmail.com> - 2013-04-04 06:41 +0000
          Re: plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2013-04-04 11:53 +0000
            Re: plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2013-04-04 08:20 -0700
            Re: plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2013-04-04 11:08 -0500
              Re: plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut Keith Keller <kkeller-usenet@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us> - 2013-04-04 09:45 -0700
                Re: plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2013-04-04 13:43 -0400
                Re: plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2013-04-04 14:43 -0500
                Re: plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut Keith Keller <kkeller-usenet@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us> - 2013-04-04 13:43 -0700
                Re: plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2013-04-04 16:28 -0500
                Re: plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut Keith Keller <kkeller-usenet@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us> - 2013-04-04 16:03 -0700
                Re: plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2013-04-04 21:15 -0400
      Re: plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut Dave Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> - 2013-04-03 21:23 +0100
        Re: plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut Unknown <dog@gmail.com> - 2013-04-04 08:57 +0000
          Re: plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut Theo Markettos <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2013-04-04 22:34 +0100
            Re: plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2013-04-04 21:17 -0400
              Re: plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut Hils <hils@saynotospam.net> - 2013-04-06 13:17 +0100
                Re: plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut Nick Odell <gurzhfvp.jbexfubc@ntlworld.com.invalid> - 2013-04-06 14:01 +0100
                Re: plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut Hils <hils@saynotospam.net> - 2013-04-06 15:42 +0100
                Re: plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut Gordon Henderson <gordon+usenet@drogon.net> - 2013-04-06 15:31 +0000
                Re: plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2013-04-06 11:51 -0400
                Re: plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-04-06 17:08 +0100
                Re: plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut Folderol <folderol@ukfsn.org> - 2013-04-06 17:27 +0100
                Re: plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut Aragorn <stryder@telenet.be.invalid> - 2013-04-06 18:28 +0200
                Re: plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-04-06 19:54 +0100
                Re: plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut Gordon Henderson <gordon+usenet@drogon.net> - 2013-04-06 17:07 +0000
                Re: plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut Hils <hils@saynotospam.net> - 2013-04-06 18:54 +0100
                Re: plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut Chris Baird <abuse@brushtail.apana.org.au> - 2013-04-07 06:10 +1000
                Re: plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut Folderol <folderol@ukfsn.org> - 2013-04-06 22:11 +0100
                Re: plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut Chris Baird <abuse@brushtail.apana.org.au> - 2013-04-07 18:01 +1000
                Re: plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2013-04-06 20:23 -0400
                Re: plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut Unknown <dog@gmail.com> - 2013-04-07 16:42 +0000
            Re: plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut Unknown <dog@gmail.com> - 2013-04-05 06:18 +0000
          Re: plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut Paul <paul@pcserviceselectronics.co.uk> - 2013-04-05 13:38 +0100

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