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Re: plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut

From Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject Re: plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut
Date 2013-04-04 21:15 -0400
Organization National Capital Freenet, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
Message-ID <alpine.LNX.2.02.1304042110290.1608@darkstar.example.org> (permalink)
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On Thu, 4 Apr 2013, JEDIDIAH wrote:

> On 2013-04-04, Keith Keller <kkeller-usenet@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us> wrote:
>> On 2013-04-04, JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> wrote:
>>>
>>> ...and I know companies that are still using displays that aren't modern enough to have DVI.
>>
>> That is of course not remotely the point.  The point is that DVI
>
>   Sure it is.
>
>> displays are cheaply and readily available if the OP were willing to
>> obtain one.
>
>    Translation: spend more money.
>
>    That's usually a poor response to a device that's found wanting.
>
And despite its use as an embedded controller, the Pi was intended as a 
cheap way to play with programming.  Just like the Vic-20 or COmmodore 64, 
connect it to the tv set and away you go.  In some ways it is silly since 
people are tossing 1GHz computers, but for 35.00 or whatever, it is an 
interesting way to provide a place to play with programming without the 
worry of accidentally damaging a main computer.

So the Pi is designed to hook up to a tv set.  Any current tv set has 
hdmi, I got that when I bought an LCD tv set 2 years ago in anticipation 
of Canada going to DTV.  I could have bought a converter, but it had been 
30 years since the only time I bought a tv set new, and this gave me an 
LCD tv set with LED backlight.  And it gave me HDMI.

Now if all your tv sets are too old, then as I pointed out, the Pi has a 
composite tv output, which means one can connect it to that green 
monochrome monitor you have left over from the Apple II days, or that 
COmmodore monitor you got with the Amiga 500.  It won't be hi definition, 
but surely if one can't scrounge up a monitor with DVI, a tv set with 
HDMI, then you can find a tv set or monitor with composite video input.

    Michael

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plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut Avoid9Pdf@gmail.com - 2013-04-02 14:36 +0000
  Kernel console output on the serial port for headless rPi J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2013-04-02 15:12 +0000
    Re: Kernel console output on the serial port for headless rPi Avoid9Pdf@gmail.com - 2013-04-03 05:35 +0000
      Re: Kernel console output on the serial port for headless rPi J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2013-04-03 12:04 +0000
        Re: Kernel console output on the serial port for headless rPi Unknown <dog@gmail.com> - 2013-04-03 17:56 +0000
          Re: Kernel console output on the serial port for headless rPi Gordon Henderson <gordon+usenet@drogon.net> - 2013-04-03 18:11 +0000
          Re: Kernel console output on the serial port for headless rPi J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2013-04-03 20:28 +0000
            Re: Kernel console output on the serial port for headless rPi Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2013-04-03 23:27 -0400
              Re: Kernel console output on the serial port for headless rPi Keith Keller <kkeller-usenet@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us> - 2013-04-03 21:35 -0700
                Re: Kernel console output on the serial port for headless rPi Jerry Peters <jerry@example.invalid> - 2013-04-04 20:15 +0000
              Re: Kernel console output on the serial port for headless rPi Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2013-04-04 08:36 -0400
                Re: Kernel console output on the serial port for headless rPi J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2013-04-04 13:59 +0000
                Re: Kernel console output on the serial port for headless rPi Unknown <dog@gmail.com> - 2013-04-05 07:53 +0000
                Re: Kernel console output on the serial port for headless rPi J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2013-04-05 15:50 +0000
                Re: Kernel console output on the serial port for headless rPi Keith Keller <kkeller-usenet@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us> - 2013-04-05 09:17 -0700
                Re: Kernel console output on the serial port for headless rPi Unknown <dog@gmail.com> - 2013-04-05 18:38 +0000
                Re: Kernel console output on the serial port for headless rPi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-04-05 19:57 +0100
                Re: Kernel console output on the serial port for headless rPi "Nick B." <nick@replytoisnot.invalid> - 2013-04-05 22:12 +0000
                Re: Kernel console output on the serial port for headless rPi J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2013-04-05 21:24 +0000
  Re: plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2013-04-02 13:43 -0400
    Re: plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut Avoid9Pdf@gmail.com - 2013-04-03 05:35 +0000
      Re: plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut Keith Keller <kkeller-usenet@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us> - 2013-04-02 23:02 -0700
        Re: plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut Unknown <dog@gmail.com> - 2013-04-04 06:41 +0000
          Re: plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2013-04-04 11:53 +0000
            Re: plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2013-04-04 08:20 -0700
            Re: plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2013-04-04 11:08 -0500
              Re: plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut Keith Keller <kkeller-usenet@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us> - 2013-04-04 09:45 -0700
                Re: plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2013-04-04 13:43 -0400
                Re: plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2013-04-04 14:43 -0500
                Re: plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut Keith Keller <kkeller-usenet@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us> - 2013-04-04 13:43 -0700
                Re: plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2013-04-04 16:28 -0500
                Re: plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut Keith Keller <kkeller-usenet@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us> - 2013-04-04 16:03 -0700
                Re: plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2013-04-04 21:15 -0400
      Re: plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut Dave Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> - 2013-04-03 21:23 +0100
        Re: plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut Unknown <dog@gmail.com> - 2013-04-04 08:57 +0000
          Re: plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut Theo Markettos <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2013-04-04 22:34 +0100
            Re: plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2013-04-04 21:17 -0400
              Re: plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut Hils <hils@saynotospam.net> - 2013-04-06 13:17 +0100
                Re: plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut Nick Odell <gurzhfvp.jbexfubc@ntlworld.com.invalid> - 2013-04-06 14:01 +0100
                Re: plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut Hils <hils@saynotospam.net> - 2013-04-06 15:42 +0100
                Re: plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut Gordon Henderson <gordon+usenet@drogon.net> - 2013-04-06 15:31 +0000
                Re: plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2013-04-06 11:51 -0400
                Re: plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-04-06 17:08 +0100
                Re: plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut Folderol <folderol@ukfsn.org> - 2013-04-06 17:27 +0100
                Re: plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut Aragorn <stryder@telenet.be.invalid> - 2013-04-06 18:28 +0200
                Re: plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-04-06 19:54 +0100
                Re: plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut Gordon Henderson <gordon+usenet@drogon.net> - 2013-04-06 17:07 +0000
                Re: plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut Hils <hils@saynotospam.net> - 2013-04-06 18:54 +0100
                Re: plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut Chris Baird <abuse@brushtail.apana.org.au> - 2013-04-07 06:10 +1000
                Re: plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut Folderol <folderol@ukfsn.org> - 2013-04-06 22:11 +0100
                Re: plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut Chris Baird <abuse@brushtail.apana.org.au> - 2013-04-07 18:01 +1000
                Re: plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2013-04-06 20:23 -0400
                Re: plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut Unknown <dog@gmail.com> - 2013-04-07 16:42 +0000
            Re: plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut Unknown <dog@gmail.com> - 2013-04-05 06:18 +0000
          Re: plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut Paul <paul@pcserviceselectronics.co.uk> - 2013-04-05 13:38 +0100

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