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Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers?

From crankypuss <noemail@noemail.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.lang.php
Subject Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers?
Date 2013-01-05 04:01 -0700
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On 01/04/2013 06:52 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> On 1/4/2013 7:06 AM, bill wrote:
>> On 1/3/2013 8:18 AM, M. Strobel wrote:
>>> Am 03.01.2013 12:52, schrieb bill:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Use xdebug, and a IDE that does it, for example Komodo IDE.
>>>>
>>>> Is there a remote debugger that does not require and IDE?
>>>> ie: one I can open in a 2nd browser window?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I once found a xdebug_client directly from the makers at xdebug.org,
>>> but it was in
>>> alpha state.
>>>
>>> You can dump execution traces.
>>>
>>> But why worry? A developer has an IDE.
>>>
>>> /Str.
>>>
>>
>> I prefer HTML-Kit Tools as an editor and it is not part of an IDE.
>> bill
>
> Sorry, I agree.  A DEVELOPER has an IDE.  A hacker uses an editor.
>

Please, Jerry; such unthinking buffoonery is beneath you, you are 
neither an idiot nor a fool so why present yourself as a bigoted 
software redneck.

Developers do what is necessary, including building their own IDE using 
an editor, or the fucking dip-switches if that's what it takes.  Lamers 
subject to significant brain damage from too many years of doing as they 
are told only have an IDE, the one that is most politically correct, or 
has been chosen by some idiot who has sucked up to management.

It is absolutely unnecessary to have an IDE in order to have a debugger, 
the debugger does its part of the job, the editor does its part, and an 
IDE tries to take it all upon itself to hoard the credit... in some 
cases an IDE might actually make things more convenient overall, but 
I've seen more cases of IDEs making things more of a pain in the ass.

The word "hacker" seems to have come into vogue and now seems to be 
leaving the fad building; back in the day, a "hack" described a quack 
doctor, or an incompetent professional.  People want to think they are 
hackers when that is the politically acceptable thing, "developers" when 
that is more fashionable.  Nobody is content to be a programmer anymore, 
everybody is most interested in gathering the acclaim suggested by a 
fancy title.  Developer, hacker, blah blah blah.  Just get the job done.

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Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? BobMCT <r.mariotti@fdcx.net> - 2013-01-02 21:50 -0500
  Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-01-02 23:15 -0500
  Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? "M. Strobel" <sorry_no_mail_here@nowhere.dee> - 2013-01-03 10:25 +0100
    Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? bill <william@TechServSys.com> - 2013-01-03 06:52 -0500
      Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? "M. Strobel" <sorry_no_mail_here@nowhere.dee> - 2013-01-03 14:18 +0100
        Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? bill <william@TechServSys.com> - 2013-01-04 07:06 -0500
          Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-01-04 08:52 -0500
            Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? "Peter H. Coffin" <hellsop@ninehells.com> - 2013-01-04 10:50 -0600
              Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-01-04 18:13 +0000
                Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-01-04 14:40 -0500
                Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? Martin Leese <please@see.Web.for.e-mail.INVALID> - 2013-01-05 11:13 -0700
                Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-01-05 18:31 +0000
                Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? "Twayne" <nobody@devnull.spamcop.net> - 2013-01-04 15:19 -0500
                Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-01-04 20:21 +0000
                Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? "Peter H. Coffin" <hellsop@ninehells.com> - 2013-01-04 21:39 -0600
                Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-01-05 04:32 +0000
                Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-01-05 09:45 +0100
                Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? Gregor Kofler <usenet@gregorkofler.com> - 2013-01-05 10:47 +0100
                Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-01-05 12:59 +0000
                Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2013-01-15 11:36 +0100
                Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-01-15 13:28 +0000
                Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2013-01-15 15:48 +0100
                Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-01-15 15:05 +0000
                Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-01-15 18:55 +0000
              Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? "M. Strobel" <sorry_no_mail_here@nowhere.dee> - 2013-01-04 19:25 +0100
            Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? crankypuss <noemail@noemail.invalid> - 2013-01-05 04:01 -0700
              Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-01-05 08:35 -0500
                Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? crankypuss <noemail@noemail.invalid> - 2013-01-05 12:07 -0700
                Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-01-05 14:51 -0500
              Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? Doug Miller <doug_at_milmac_dot_com@example.com> - 2013-01-05 15:47 +0000
                Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-01-05 15:59 +0000
                Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? Anders Wegge Keller <wegge@wegge.dk> - 2013-01-05 18:51 +0100
                Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-01-05 18:30 +0000
                Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-01-05 18:44 +0000
                Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-01-05 18:42 +0000
                Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? Anders Wegge Keller <wegge@wegge.dk> - 2013-01-05 19:47 +0100
                Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-01-05 14:52 -0500
                Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-01-06 12:11 +0000
                Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? Anders Wegge Keller <wegge@wegge.dk> - 2013-01-06 13:41 +0100
                Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-01-06 08:23 -0500
                Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-01-06 13:53 +0000
                Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-01-05 18:25 +0000
          Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? Gregor Kofler <usenet@gregorkofler.com> - 2013-01-04 15:22 +0100
            Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-01-04 15:40 +0100
            Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? crankypuss <noemail@noemail.invalid> - 2013-01-05 04:06 -0700
              Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? Gregor Kofler <usenet@gregorkofler.com> - 2013-01-06 01:56 +0100
            Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-01-05 13:55 +0000
              Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? "M. Strobel" <sorry_no_mail_here@nowhere.dee> - 2013-01-05 17:51 +0100
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