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| From | James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> |
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| Newsgroups | comp.lang.c |
| Subject | Re: The C Containers Library |
| Date | 2012-08-02 06:52 -0400 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <jvdm50$2bm$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
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On 08/02/2012 04:11 AM, Ansel wrote: > Nick Keighley wrote: >> On Jul 30, 9:10 am, Keith Thompson <ks...@mib.org> wrote: >>> "Ansel" <tinker...@trytospammenowloser.com> writes: ... >>>> C invented C++ namespaces. In C it was a technique. I C++ it was >>>> formalized and developed. >>> >>> That doesn't make a lot of sense. >> >> because it's nonsense. If he means it is common to use naming >> conventions >> to distinguish namespaces in C, then this was common in plenty of >> other >> languages. > > But we are talking about the C-to-C++ evolution. C++ automated and > abstracted-away the decorative naming conventions used by C programmers as a > technique, into a some keywords. To say that C++ invented anything new would > be overstating it. C programmers didn't invent that technique; it long pre-dates C. C++ did invent the keywords, special syntax, and the rules associated with those keywords and syntax. To say that "C invented C++ namespaces" is nonsense because "C++ namespaces" refers very specifically to those keywords, that syntax, and the associated rules. It is not a term that can be loosely extended to cover the naming conventions that were used in other languages to achieve the same goal. What you're saying is roughly comparable to denying the significance of the invention of the prefix ++ operator, by pointing out that it's just equivalent to i = i + 1. There's no denying the equivalence, but recognizing that fact doesn't reduce the significance of the invention. -- James Kuyper
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Re: The C Containers Library Anders Wegge Keller <wegge@wegge.dk> - 2012-08-05 08:36 +0200
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Re: The C Containers Library jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-07-27 01:55 +0200
Re: The C Containers Library wkaras@yahoo.com - 2012-07-26 13:45 -0700
Re: The C Containers Library jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-07-26 22:53 +0200
Re: The C Containers Library wkaras@yahoo.com - 2012-07-26 18:46 -0700
Re: The C Containers Library jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-07-27 10:59 +0200
Re: The C Containers Library gwowen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2012-07-27 03:39 -0700
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Re: The C Containers Library jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-07-27 11:04 +0200
Re: The C Containers Library W Karas <wkaras@yahoo.com> - 2012-07-27 13:10 -0700
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Re: The C Containers Library James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-07-27 10:25 -0400
Re: The C Containers Library wkaras@yahoo.com - 2012-07-27 11:28 -0700
Re: The C Containers Library James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-07-27 15:17 -0400
Re: The C Containers Library wkaras@yahoo.com - 2012-07-27 13:00 -0700
Re: The C Containers Library jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-07-29 02:02 +0200
Re: The C Containers Library "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-07-28 22:08 -0600
Re: The C Containers Library jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-07-29 08:46 +0200
Re: The C Containers Library pacman@kosh.dhis.org (Alan Curry) - 2012-07-29 07:43 +0000
Re: The C Containers Library jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-07-29 09:59 +0200
Re: The C Containers Library Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2012-07-29 06:43 -0700
Re: The C Containers Library pacman@kosh.dhis.org (Alan Curry) - 2012-07-29 17:27 +0000
Re: The C Containers Library jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-07-29 20:56 +0200
Re: The C Containers Library pacman@kosh.dhis.org (Alan Curry) - 2012-07-30 00:07 +0000
Re: The C Containers Library "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-07-30 00:07 -0600
Re: The C Containers Library Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-07-29 11:58 -0700
Re: The C Containers Library jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-07-29 22:06 +0200
Re: The C Containers Library jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-07-29 22:23 +0200
Re: The C Containers Library Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.invalid> - 2012-07-30 00:13 +0200
Re: The C Containers Library "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-07-30 00:13 -0600
Re: The C Containers Library Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-07-30 01:10 -0700
Re: The C Containers Library "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-07-30 02:57 -0600
Re: The C Containers Library Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2012-07-30 15:47 +0000
Re: The C Containers Library Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-07-30 13:01 -0700
Re: The C Containers Library Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2012-07-30 04:53 -0700
Re: The C Containers Library Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-07-30 13:04 -0700
Re: The C Containers Library "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-02 02:11 -0600
Re: The C Containers Library James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-08-02 06:52 -0400
Re: The C Containers Library James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-08-02 06:46 -0400
Re: The C Containers Library Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-07-30 00:41 +0100
Re: The C Containers Library jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-07-30 09:45 +0200
Re: The C Containers Library "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-07-29 23:05 -0600
Re: The C Containers Library "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-07-29 22:52 -0600
Re: The C Containers Library Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2012-07-30 04:56 -0700
Re: The C Containers Library "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-02 02:07 -0600
Re: The C Containers Library jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-07-30 17:49 +0200
Re: The C Containers Library Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-07-28 09:17 +0100
Re: The C Containers Library W Karas <wkaras@yahoo.com> - 2012-07-28 15:17 -0700
Re: The C Containers Library Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-07-29 11:10 +0100
Re: The C Containers Library Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2012-07-28 06:51 -0700
Re: The C Containers Library Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-07-28 17:23 +0100
Re: The C Containers Library Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2012-07-30 13:40 -0700
Re: The C Containers Library Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.invalid> - 2012-07-31 00:24 +0200
Re: The C Containers Library Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.invalid> - 2012-07-31 00:05 +0200
Re: The C Containers Library Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-07-31 00:53 +0100
Re: The C Containers Library jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-07-31 09:24 +0200
Re: The C Containers Library Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2012-08-02 14:45 -0700
Re: The C Containers Library Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-08-03 22:31 +0100
Re: The C Containers Library jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-08-04 00:01 +0200
Re: The C Containers Library Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-08-03 23:45 +0100
Re: The C Containers Library "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-04 22:47 -0600
Re: The C Containers Library "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-04 22:41 -0600
Re: The C Containers Library Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-08-07 10:24 +0100
Re: The C Containers Library jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-08-07 15:30 +0200
Re: The C Containers Library Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-08-07 15:35 +0100
Re: The C Containers Library Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2012-09-07 12:40 -0700
Re: The C Containers Library Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-09-08 00:07 +0100
Re: The C Containers Library Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2012-09-07 17:31 -0700
Re: The C Containers Library Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-09-08 03:14 +0100
Re: The C Containers Library Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2012-09-08 05:22 -0700
Re: The C Containers Library Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2012-09-07 12:36 -0700
Re: The C Containers Library Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-08 02:26 -0700
Re: The C Containers Library jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-08-08 17:25 +0200
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Re: The C Containers Library jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-08-04 18:42 +0200
Re: The C Containers Library Ike Naar <ike@faeroes.freeshell.org> - 2012-08-04 19:17 +0000
Re: The C Containers Library Ike Naar <ike@faeroes.freeshell.org> - 2012-08-04 19:22 +0000
Re: The C Containers Library jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-08-04 22:14 +0200
Re: The C Containers Library jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-08-05 00:15 +0200
Re: The C Containers Library Ike Naar <ike@faeroes.freeshell.org> - 2012-08-04 23:13 +0000
Re: The C Containers Library "Ansel" <tinker454@trytospammenowloser.com> - 2012-08-04 22:53 -0600
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