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| From | Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> |
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| Newsgroups | ger.ct |
| Subject | Re: The rain in spain stays mainly in the plain |
| Date | 2022-08-26 07:54 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <jmr5h2Fj8p2U2@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
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Martin Ebert <mx300@gmx.net> writes: > Am 24.08.22 um 13:30 schrieb Lars Gebauer: >> Am 24.08.2022 um 00:46 schrieb Martin Ebert: >>> Auf Deutsch: Wir machen keine Wissenschaft mehr, wir sagen ganz >>> öffentlich, dass wir Statistiken fälschen. Wir streichen einfach >>> die Jahre, die uns nicht passen. Und wir machen Neusprech: Acht >>> Jahre, eigentlich ja sieben Jahre - das wird eiskalt *langjährige* >>> Statistik genannt. Eine unglaubliche Frechheit. > >> Nein. Sondern *ganz* *genau* *so*. > > Acht Jahre sind *nicht* langjährig. Und eine Lüge zieht > weitere nach sich, wie wir noch sehen werden: > >> Zu einer guten Statistik gehört, daß a) die Quelle der Daten bekannt >> ist, daß b) diese Daten auch im Rohformat vorliegen und daß c) >> erklärt wird, warum und welche Daten ausgewählt wurden. Es spricht >> bspw. überhaupt nichts dagegen, irgendwelche Ausreißer wegzulassen. >> Aber es gehört sauber dokumentiert. > > Im Sinne der Nutzung der Statistik (Dürre, Du hast den Artikel > gelesen?) ist es faktisch eine Fälschung: Wenn man das Jahr > nicht gestrichen hätte, wäre das letzte Jahr im Durchschnitt. > Das gäbe keinen Artikel, also streicht man 2018 -und wundersam- > ist nun das letzte Jahr unterdurchschnittlich. Na ja, wenn man 'Ausreißer' aus den Messwerten streicht, muss man eine Begründung angeben. 'Messgerät kaputt' oder so. Für Lars reicht auch, 'passt nicht zur Geschichte, die ich erzählen will'. Remember, für Lars ist alles nur Geschichten erzählen. -- "Die Abwesenheit von Evidenz zur Wirksamkeit ist keine Evidenz für die Abwesenheit von Wirksamkeit." - Der Grünen-Gesundheitsexperte Janosch Dahmen.
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The rain in spain stays mainly in the plain "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2022-08-20 06:40 +0200
Re: The rain in spain stays mainly in the plain Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-08-19 23:20 -0700
Re: The rain in spain stays mainly in the plain Uwe Bonnes <bon@hertz.ikp.physik.tu-darmstadt.de> - 2022-08-20 09:33 +0000
Re: The rain in spain stays mainly in the plain Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2022-08-20 15:36 +0000
Re: The rain in spain stays mainly in the plain Frank Hucklenbroich <hucklenbroich@gmx.net> - 2022-08-20 14:28 +0200
Re: The rain in spain stays mainly in the plain Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-08-20 06:39 -0700
Re: The rain in spain stays mainly in the plain Frank Hucklenbroich <hucklenbroich@gmx.net> - 2022-08-23 21:51 +0200
Re: The rain in spain stays mainly in the plain Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2022-08-20 15:46 +0200
Re: The rain in spain stays mainly in the plain Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-08-20 07:07 -0700
Re: The rain in spain stays mainly in the plain Martin Ebert <mx300@gmx.net> - 2022-08-21 02:48 +0200
Re: The rain in spain stays mainly in the plain Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-08-21 01:14 -0700
Re: The rain in spain stays mainly in the plain Martin Ebert <mx300@gmx.net> - 2022-08-21 23:22 +0200
Re: The rain in spain stays mainly in the plain Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-08-21 23:32 -0700
Re: The rain in spain stays mainly in the plain Martin Ebert <mx300@gmx.net> - 2022-08-23 00:26 +0200
Re: The rain in spain stays mainly in the plain Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-08-23 00:00 -0700
Re: The rain in spain stays mainly in the plain Martin Ebert <mx300@gmx.net> - 2022-08-21 02:44 +0200
Re: The rain in spain stays mainly in the plain Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2022-08-21 11:01 +0200
Re: The rain in spain stays mainly in the plain Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-08-21 05:44 -0700
Re: The rain in spain stays mainly in the plain Martin Ebert <mx300@gmx.net> - 2022-08-21 23:25 +0200
Re: The rain in spain stays mainly in the plain Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2022-08-22 06:23 +0200
Re: The rain in spain stays mainly in the plain Johannes Leckebusch <jlnospam@johannes-leckebusch.de> - 2022-08-22 22:08 +0200
Re: The rain in spain stays mainly in the plain Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2022-08-22 22:52 +0200
Re: The rain in spain stays mainly in the plain Johannes Leckebusch <jlnospam@johannes-leckebusch.de> - 2022-08-22 22:57 +0200
Re: The rain in spain stays mainly in the plain Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2022-08-23 06:35 +0200
Re: The rain in spain stays mainly in the plain Martin Ebert <mx300@gmx.net> - 2022-08-24 00:46 +0200
Re: The rain in spain stays mainly in the plain Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-08-23 23:36 -0700
Re: The rain in spain stays mainly in the plain Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2022-08-24 12:59 +0200
Re: The rain in spain stays mainly in the plain Martin Ebert <mx300@gmx.net> - 2022-08-26 00:21 +0200
Re: The rain in spain stays mainly in the plain Peter Veith <veith@snafu.de> - 2022-08-26 11:24 +0200
Re: The rain in spain stays mainly in the plain Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2022-08-26 12:23 +0200
Re: The rain in spain stays mainly in the plain Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-08-24 13:30 +0200
Re: The rain in spain stays mainly in the plain Martin Ebert <mx300@gmx.net> - 2022-08-26 00:27 +0200
Re: The rain in spain stays mainly in the plain Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2022-08-26 07:54 +0200
Re: The rain in spain stays mainly in the plain Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2022-08-26 13:31 +0200
Re: The rain in spain stays mainly in the plain Martin Ebert <mx300@gmx.net> - 2022-08-26 22:56 +0200
Re: The rain in spain stays mainly in the plain Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2022-08-27 00:04 +0200
Re: The rain in spain stays mainly in the plain Martin Ebert <mx300@gmx.net> - 2022-08-28 00:11 +0200
Re: The rain in spain stays mainly in the plain Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2022-08-28 09:26 +0200
Re: The rain in spain stays mainly in the plain Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-08-28 10:09 +0200
Re: The rain in spain stays mainly in the plain Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2022-08-28 10:14 +0200
Re: The rain in spain stays mainly in the plain Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-08-28 10:36 +0200
Re: The rain in spain stays mainly in the plain Georg Gruber <g.gruber_hauwech@gmx.net> - 2022-08-28 11:58 +0200
Re: The rain in spain stays mainly in the plain Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-08-28 12:30 +0200
Re: The rain in spain stays mainly in the plain Georg Gruber <g.gruber_hauwech@gmx.net> - 2022-08-28 12:51 +0200
Re: The rain in spain stays mainly in the plain Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-08-28 13:08 +0200
Re: The rain in spain stays mainly in the plain Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-08-28 14:00 +0000
Re: The rain in spain stays mainly in the plain Martin Ebert <mx300@gmx.net> - 2022-08-28 22:07 +0200
Re: The rain in spain stays mainly in the plain Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-09-01 07:44 -0700
Re: The rain in spain stays mainly in the plain Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2022-08-28 11:49 +0200
Re: The rain in spain stays mainly in the plain Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-09-01 07:35 -0700
Re: The rain in spain stays mainly in the plain Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-08-21 23:36 -0700
Re: The rain in spain stays mainly in the plain Frank Hucklenbroich <hucklenbroich@gmx.net> - 2022-08-23 22:02 +0200
Re: The rain in spain stays mainly in the plain Martin Ebert <mx300@gmx.net> - 2022-08-24 00:49 +0200
Re: The rain in spain stays mainly in the plain Frank Hucklenbroich <hucklenbroich@gmx.net> - 2022-08-23 21:59 +0200
Re: The rain in spain stays mainly in the plain Martin Ebert <mx300@gmx.net> - 2022-08-28 00:15 +0200
Re: The rain in spain stays mainly in the plain Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-08-28 06:36 +0000
Re: The rain in spain stays mainly in the plain Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-09-01 07:42 -0700
Re: The rain in spain stays mainly in the plain Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-08-20 10:33 -0700
Re: The rain in spain stays mainly in the plain Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-08-20 17:37 +0000
Re: The rain in spain stays mainly in the plain spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2022-08-21 13:23 +0200
Re: The rain in spain stays mainly in the plain Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-08-21 18:02 +0000
Re: The rain in spain stays mainly in the plain Frank Hucklenbroich <hucklenbroich@gmx.net> - 2022-08-23 22:06 +0200
Re: The rain in spain stays mainly in the plain Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-08-24 08:32 +0000
Re: The rain in spain stays mainly in the plain Johannes Leckebusch <jlnospam@johannes-leckebusch.de> - 2022-08-20 19:55 +0200
Re: The rain in spain stays mainly in the plain Martin Ebert <mx300@gmx.net> - 2022-08-22 00:56 +0200
Re: The rain in spain stays mainly in the plain Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-08-21 23:35 -0700
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