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Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory

Subject Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory
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From Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com>
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Date 2018-04-29 20:13 +0100

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On 29/04/2018 19:50, Tom Roberts wrote:
> On 4/29/18 1:09 PM, Keith Stein wrote:
>> I agree that "things do not shrink", but does your "etc" imply that 
>> clocks don't really run slow, 'cos i would agree with that too, but
>> that is certainly NOT what Einstein's SR theory claims eh!
> 
> You REALLY need to learn what SR _ACTUALLY_SAYS_. Your GUESSES are 
> wrong, and just confuse you.
> 
> SR predicts that clocks NEVER "run slow" [#]. SR also predicts that when 
> an inertial frame measures a moving clock it is OBSERVED to run slow 
> (compared to the clocks of the inertial frame).
> 
>      As I keep saying, this OBSERVATION is due to the
>      GEOMETRICAL PROJECTION inherent in such a measurement,
>      and no clocks are affected.
>
Right! And no twin is affected either.!


>      [#] The wording of this statement implies that ONLY THE
>      CLOCK is involved -- it is a statement about the clock's
>      INTRINSIC tick rate. This is a direct consequence of
>      Einstein's first postulate: the laws of physics that
>      govern the clock's ticking are the same in any inertial
>      frame, so no matter which frame the clock is at rest in
>      it ticks at its usual rate (as determined by those
>      INVARIANT laws).
> 
> Tom Roberts

Which is why you can't make twins age at different rates, as i keep 
saying eh!

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Trivial destruction of AE theory jgreenfield97@gmail.com - 2018-03-23 20:21 -0700
  Trivial destruction of AE theory "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-23 20:36 -0700
  Re:Trivial destruction of AE theory Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-03-24 07:04 +0100
    Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory Peter Brown <pmbphy@gmail.com> - 2018-04-30 02:06 -0700
      Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-05-01 15:17 -0700
  Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 23:50 -0700
    Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-03-24 07:56 +0100
      Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-03-24 10:24 -0700
        Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-03-24 19:52 +0100
          Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-03-24 12:28 -0700
            Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-03-24 23:25 +0100
              Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-03-24 22:17 -0700
          Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-03-25 01:45 -0700
            Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory Libor 'Poutnik' Stříž <poutnik@privacy.net> - 2018-03-25 13:13 +0200
            Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory Emma Blazer <aemb@wmopswxa.as> - 2018-03-25 13:31 +0000
              Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-03-26 16:40 -0700
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            Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-03-25 11:12 -0700
              Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-03-26 16:47 -0700
            Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-03-26 16:45 -0700
          Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory Emma Blazer <aemb@wmopswxa.as> - 2018-03-25 13:33 +0000
        Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory Peter Brown <pmbphy@gmail.com> - 2018-04-30 02:09 -0700
          Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-05-01 10:28 -0700
            Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-05-01 10:35 -0700
          Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-05-01 14:43 -0700
      Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory Steve BH <sbharris@gmail.com> - 2018-03-24 19:01 -0700
        Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-03-24 22:28 -0700
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  Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-03-25 01:44 -0700
    Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory Emma Blazer <aemb@wmopswxa.as> - 2018-03-25 13:43 +0000
      Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory Steve BH <sbharris@gmail.com> - 2018-03-25 22:25 -0700
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          Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory Steve BH <sbharris@gmail.com> - 2018-03-27 15:29 -0700
            Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-03-28 00:06 -0700
    Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-03-27 10:15 -0700
      Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-03-27 10:21 -0700
  Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory Emma Blazer <aemb@wmopswxa.as> - 2018-03-25 13:46 +0000
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        Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-27 05:01 -0700
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            Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory Libor 'Poutnik' Stříž <poutnik@privacy.net> - 2018-03-31 13:22 +0200
              Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory Emory Walpole <aibw@wrtwgt.lr> - 2018-03-31 19:40 +0000
                Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-31 12:53 -0700
                Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-31 13:21 -0700
                Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-29 11:16 -0700
                Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-29 11:20 -0700
              Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-04-01 15:12 -0700
          Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory jgreenfield97@gmail.com - 2018-05-02 23:08 -0700
    Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory Steve BH <sbharris@gmail.com> - 2018-03-25 22:31 -0700
      Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-25 23:00 -0700
  Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2018-03-27 11:01 +1100
    Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory jgreenfield97@gmail.com - 2018-03-27 01:10 -0700
      Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2018-03-27 19:30 +1100
        Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory jgreenfield97@gmail.com - 2018-03-27 01:50 -0700
          Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2018-03-28 11:14 +1100
            Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-03-28 00:09 -0700
            Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-04-29 19:09 +0100
              Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-29 13:50 -0500
                Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-04-29 20:13 +0100
                Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-29 12:24 -0700
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                Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-05-03 05:35 -0700
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                Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-10 04:38 -0700
                Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-05-08 15:03 +0200
                Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory HGW <HW@home.net> - 2018-05-12 10:16 +1000
                Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory jgreenfield97@gmail.com - 2018-05-03 22:53 -0700
                Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-04-29 15:13 -0700
                Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-04-29 20:37 -0400
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                Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-04-30 11:16 +0200
                Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-05-01 10:30 -0700
                Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-05-01 21:51 +0200
                Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-05-01 13:38 -0700
                Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-05-01 15:42 -0700
                Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-05-01 17:13 -0700
                Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-05-01 17:35 -0700
                Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-05-01 17:46 -0700
                Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-05-01 22:53 -0700
                Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory Otto Wahl <tlow@wtiwor.oc> - 2018-05-02 15:42 +0000
                Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-05-02 11:02 -0700
                Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-05-02 11:21 -0700
                Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-05-03 00:11 -0700
                Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-05-02 21:02 +0200
                Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-05-02 12:34 -0700
                Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-05-03 04:17 +0200
                Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-05-02 22:10 -0700
                Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-05-02 12:58 -0700
                Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-05-03 16:34 +0200
                Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-05-03 10:57 -0700
                Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-05-03 12:48 -0700
                Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-05-03 22:15 +0200
                Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-05-03 13:40 -0700
                Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-05-03 21:15 -0700
                Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-05-03 17:44 -0700
                Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-05-04 15:09 +0200
                Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-04-29 21:27 -0700
                Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-29 15:39 -0500
                Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-04-30 06:44 +0100
                Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-04-29 21:25 -0700
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        Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-29 19:18 -0700
  Re: Trivial destruction of AE theory Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2018-03-30 12:30 +1100
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