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Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad

From Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org>
Newsgroups uk.comp.sys.mac
Subject Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad
Date 2020-07-23 10:13 +0000
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On 23 Jul 2020 at 02:48:48 BST, "John" <Man@the.keyboard> wrote:

> On Wed, 22 Jul 2020 20:48:40 +0100, Andy Hewitt
> <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 22/07/2020 16:53, Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote:
>>> On 22 Jul 2020 at 16:19:44 BST, "Andy Hewitt" <thewildrover@icloud.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Or, there’s Google Music, which does allow the upload for free, but I’d
>>>> question how long that might last.
>>> 
>>> Already gone. It's being subsumed into Youtube Music and requires a
>>> subscription to listen to your own stuff up in their cloud.
>> 
>> Yeah, found that now, and so has Amazon Music Storage, although I can 
>> find reports of it being ceased, it still shows up as an option on my 
>> account, with the ability to buy it. There are no options I can see for 
>> uploading my music in any of the apps though.
>> 
>>>> Perhaps a Plex solution might do it?
>>>> 
>>> Good thought. Requires an always-on Plex somewhere, and I don't think the
>>> client has any caching ability, but should work when you're within 3G or
>>> better signal.
>> 
>> Yeah, running out of ideas here. The intention was to go with just iPads 
>> and iPods here. I need to clear the desktop computer from the room, and 
>> having a permanently connected setup is not likely to be an option we 
>> can manage.
>> 
>> The nearest I can come up with is to stick all my music into my iCloud 
>> Drive, and find some way to play them from there. VLC does actually work 
>> on the iMac and the iPad so far, but it's a bit messy.
> 
> VLC, so far as I can tell, does not play anything with Apple DRM in
> it. Movies, TV or music. 
> 
> Which things *have* DRM, I'm not sure of. It seems to change weekly. 

Used to be music and movies. It became only movies early in the 2010s.

>> Otherwise, I might be down to turning off all the cloud and home sharing 
>> stuff, and simply syncing the collections to the devices manually.
>> 
>> They didn't make this as easy as I'd hoped. It's just the music that's 
>> the sticky point at the moment, everything else seems to be well sorted.
> 
> It *should* be as simple as hooking the two boxes together, looking
> at the drive on B from the "Finder" on the iPad and sooking up
> anything you need. 

You don't even need to do that to get the files across, just drop them into
iCloud Files. Synced and done.

You can also connect to shares using 3rd party apps like iExplorer, and that
is exposed in the Files app.

That doesn't help with Andy's problem directly, as it won't let him slurp in
CDs (no iThings with optical, amazing lack of foresight there Apple /s).  

> With Apple kit, it never has been and probably never will be. In
> their dogmatic zeal to squeeze every penny from every copy of every
> file possible, they lockdown *everything*. 

Nonsense. He said, channeling nospam.

You can't tit around with the local filesystem on iThings. For the billion
people who have bought iThings, they don't WANT a Unix machine. They want a
phone that works and is secure. 

Anyone who does want a pocket Unix shell to wank over can jailbreak, which
goes hand in hand with screwing over the "signed executables only" safety that
is such a major part of having a phone that works and is secure. 

> To someone used to easily copying across Unices and Widows versions,
> among other OSes, this is a design flaw of major proportions.

You haven't looked into how to do it because you're stuck in the command line
world.

	Cheers - Jaimie
-- 
The Daily Mail should be forced to print the words 'The Paper That
Supported Hitler' on its masthead, just so that there is something 
that's true on the front page every day.            -- Mark Thomas

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Well, finally made the decision to go iPad Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> - 2020-07-20 16:20 +0100
  Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-07-21 08:41 +0100
    Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad bob <email@domain.com> - 2020-07-21 12:01 +0200
      Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-07-21 14:42 +0100
      Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> - 2020-07-21 18:42 +0000
        Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2020-07-21 22:05 +0200
          Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> - 2020-07-22 15:05 +0000
          Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad Mark <captain.black@gmail.com> - 2020-07-22 15:30 +0000
          Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2020-07-23 02:36 +0100
            Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad Bernd Froehlich <befr@eaglesoft.de> - 2020-07-23 07:06 +0000
              Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2020-07-23 17:12 +0200
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2020-07-23 16:42 +0100
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad Bernd Froehlich <befr@eaglesoft.de> - 2020-07-24 07:26 +0000
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad Elliott Roper <nospam@yrl.co.uk> - 2020-07-24 10:35 +0000
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2020-07-24 11:51 +0100
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2020-07-24 09:57 +0200
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2020-07-24 11:53 +0100
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2020-07-24 13:32 +0200
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2020-07-25 02:03 +0100
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2020-07-25 10:15 +0200
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-25 10:13 -0400
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2020-07-24 04:01 +0100
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2020-07-24 09:57 +0200
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2020-07-25 02:20 +0100
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2020-07-25 10:15 +0200
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2020-07-25 10:09 +0000
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2020-07-25 12:19 +0200
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad Graeme Wall <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> - 2020-07-25 11:56 +0100
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2020-07-25 13:36 +0200
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad Graeme Wall <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> - 2020-07-25 15:37 +0100
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2020-07-26 11:54 +0200
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad Graeme Wall <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> - 2020-07-26 11:05 +0100
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2020-07-26 15:23 +0200
              Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2020-07-24 03:49 +0100
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad Chris Ridd <chrisridd@mac.com> - 2020-07-24 07:03 +0100
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2020-07-25 01:58 +0100
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2020-07-24 09:57 +0200
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> - 2020-07-24 08:17 +0000
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad Ian McCall <ian@eruvia.org> - 2020-07-24 10:39 +0100
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> - 2020-07-24 10:32 +0000
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> - 2020-07-24 10:37 +0000
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2020-07-25 02:37 +0100
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-24 21:55 -0400
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2020-08-04 13:08 +0200
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2020-07-24 13:32 +0200
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2020-07-25 02:23 +0100
  Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> - 2020-07-21 10:25 +0000
    Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad Graeme Wall <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> - 2020-07-21 11:41 +0100
    Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> - 2020-07-21 19:09 +0000
      Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> - 2020-07-21 22:17 +0000
        Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> - 2020-07-22 15:19 +0000
          Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> - 2020-07-22 15:53 +0000
            Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad Chris Ridd <chrisridd@mac.com> - 2020-07-22 19:21 +0100
              Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> - 2020-07-22 23:14 +0000
            Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> - 2020-07-22 20:48 +0100
              Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> - 2020-07-22 23:16 +0000
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> - 2020-07-22 23:17 +0000
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> - 2020-07-23 16:02 +0000
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> - 2020-07-23 17:15 +0000
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2020-07-23 02:54 +0100
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-22 22:23 -0400
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-22 22:20 -0400
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad Bernd Froehlich <befr@eaglesoft.de> - 2020-07-23 07:09 +0000
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad Graeme Wall <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> - 2020-07-23 08:11 +0100
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-23 10:43 -0400
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2020-07-23 16:07 +0100
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-23 11:35 -0400
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2020-07-23 17:07 +0100
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-23 12:23 -0400
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2020-07-23 17:40 +0100
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-23 13:01 -0400
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2020-07-23 22:54 +0100
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> - 2020-07-23 16:34 +0000
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-23 13:01 -0400
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> - 2020-07-23 17:47 +0000
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-23 14:20 -0400
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> - 2020-07-23 20:39 +0000
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-23 16:47 -0400
              Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2020-07-23 02:48 +0100
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-22 22:19 -0400
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> - 2020-07-23 10:13 +0000
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-23 10:43 -0400
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2020-07-24 03:58 +0100
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-23 23:21 -0400
        Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2020-07-23 02:39 +0100
      Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad David Kennedy <davidkennedy@nospamherethankyou.invalid> - 2020-07-29 08:38 +0100
        Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> - 2020-07-29 17:43 +0000
          Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad David Kennedy <davidkennedy@nospamherethankyou.invalid> - 2020-08-02 09:36 +0100
            Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> - 2020-08-02 13:53 +0000
              Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-02 11:44 -0400
              Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad black.hole@jonbradbury.com (Jon B) - 2020-08-03 10:28 +0100
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> - 2020-08-03 17:42 +0000
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-03 13:44 -0400
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> - 2020-08-03 18:03 +0000
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> - 2020-08-03 21:08 +0000
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad black.hole@jonbradbury.com (Jon B) - 2020-08-04 12:48 +0100
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> - 2020-08-04 14:53 +0000

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