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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.computer.workshop, comp.os.linux.advocacy |
| Subject | Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough |
| Date | 2020-07-05 03:46 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <hmdpbsFnnuvU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
| References | (18 earlier) <XnsABEF47E06DF7AHT1@rSNu6VvwL.gxU66> <hm94lgFop1fU2@mid.individual.net> <XnsABF0C6AEF472FHT1@mYT06b.5D9m2638aUx0pWnsi8.GG8g0cB8hO293NxM> <hmcjr7FgdcgU1@mid.individual.net> <rdsak4$1osv$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
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On 7/5/20 3:39 AM, FromTheRafters wrote: > Snit wrote on 7/4/2020 : >> On 7/4/20 4:27 PM, Diesel wrote: >>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> >>> news:hm94lgFop1fU2@mid.individual.net Fri, 03 Jul 2020 16:28:32 GMT >>> in alt.computer.workshop, wrote: >>> >>>> On 7/3/20 3:58 AM, Diesel wrote: >>>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> >>>>> news:hm6psiF9msiU1@mid.individual.net Thu, 02 Jul 2020 19:12:18 >>>>> GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> But it could just be that. Again, I want to be very clear I am >>>>>> NOT accusing anyone of anything -- but it went through my head >>>>>> if Diesel can do as he claims he likely COULD do this and it >>>>>> would be a test to see if the bot was posting. And if he did >>>>>> this he would likely also do it to Carroll... unless he was >>>>>> doing it just to be a jerk (AND AGAIN NOT SAYING THAT IS THE >>>>>> CASE!) >>>>> >>>>> Yes, Snit, for the record, I could DDOS you completely offline; >>>>> but why would I waste my shells bandwidth for that...simply >>>>> getting a new IP resolves it. >>>> >>>> But that would not in any way harm the theoretical test I noted. >>> >>> A pointless test, if you spent the time to consider it in more >>> detail. >> >> It is not that complex: >> >> 1) Take X offline. >> 2) If bot stops it is evidence coming from X. >> >> If that goes beyond what you can understand then you are not as >> technical as you present yourself. >> >> .. > > Actually, if I were the botmaster and you were the target of such an > attack, I could stop the bot during that time to implicate you in the > eyes of the attacker. Sure. If you were running the bot AND the one doing the test. Presumably Diesel is not the one running the bot, but he is the one I spoke of THEORETICALLY doing the test. Same could be said of you. I think we can confidently exclude you from the suspect list. At the very least you can exclude it from your own list. Again, not saying you SHOULD do this, or that Diesel should, or anyone else, but if they were to to take down someone's 'net access as the bot is running and the bot were to stop then that would be evidence against that person. That is really all I noted. > If SC went on vacation, you could stop the bot for that time and attempt > to use the bot's stopping as 'evidence' SC was behind it. If I knew he was on vacation, sure. But who else would know when he was going to start and stop posting, down to the minute, as the person running the bot SEEMED to, at least at times? > It doesn't really take any deep technical understanding to realize this > denial of service tactic is problematic. It is pretty clear it would offer evidence. Say I thought it was you (I do not). I could (theoretically) wait for the bot to start one of its runs... then take down your access. If the bot stopped it would be more evidence against you. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
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Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2020-06-24 05:13 +0000
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-06-23 22:34 -0700
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-06-24 13:02 +0100
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-06-24 21:52 +0100
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2020-07-03 10:58 +0000
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough FromTheRafters <erratic@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-07-03 07:26 -0400
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2020-07-02 00:45 +0000
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-01 18:10 -0700
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-07-02 08:09 +0100
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-02 07:38 +0000
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-07-02 08:47 +0100
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-02 08:18 +0000
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-07-02 09:33 +0100
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-02 12:12 -0700
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough D. Moen <dmoenfactual4@email.net> - 2020-07-02 15:51 -0400
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-07-02 20:53 +0100
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-02 16:00 -0700
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2020-07-03 08:53 -0300
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2020-07-03 10:58 +0000
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-03 09:28 -0700
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2020-07-04 23:27 +0000
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-04 17:05 -0700
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-04 17:53 -0700
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2020-07-05 05:54 +0000
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-04 23:50 -0700
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough FromTheRafters <erratic@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-07-05 06:39 -0400
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-05 03:46 -0700
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough FromTheRafters <erratic@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-07-05 07:36 -0400
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-05 11:44 +0000
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough FromTheRafters <erratic@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-07-05 07:50 -0400
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-05 11:53 +0000
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2020-07-03 10:58 +0000
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-03 09:28 -0700
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-07-02 14:43 +0100
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-02 15:59 -0700
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2020-07-03 10:58 +0000
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2020-07-04 01:08 +0000
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-03 18:31 -0700
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2020-07-04 23:27 +0000
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Jose Soto <emaildumps127.0.1@noemail4me.net> - 2020-07-04 08:23 -0400
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2020-07-04 23:27 +0000
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