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Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough

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On 7/2/20 6:43 AM, David_B wrote:
...
>> David, I don't know why he opted to lie about me, but he has done so.
>> His latest one is the accusation that I'm manipulating anyone here
>> against him. Prior to that one, He claimed that not only did I have the
>> bot itself, in compiled form no less, I was also helping AND protecting
>> the author. I take issue with lies of that kind, David.
> 
> Perhaps there was a simple misunderstanding again.

That is exactly what it is. A simple misunderstanding.

Here is the exchange he is worked up over (I think):

   <hbjcp6F4eckU1@mid.individual.net>
     -----
     I will grant that it seems like an obvious "next step" to
     have the bot break apart sentences and respond to
     keywords, but that is more my thing that Carroll's (I do
     it with my chat bot). So if I were to make such a bot,
     yes, I would want it to do that... but does Carroll even
     want it to? I think the main purpose is Google seeding...
     and it does that well.

     Without knowing more of the purpose we cannot say if the
     output shows the code to be good or not. One has to see
     the code to know that.
     -----

I was clearly speaking of the Usenet flood bot. Diesel responded with this:

   <XnsAB6E44E6AFE1AHT1@ZdS859K14.7p1JRyU90Zyd>
     -----
     Do you think when you disassemble something that you're
     provided the original source code that was
     compiled/assembled by the author? You aren't, what you're
     given looks nothing like the original source code, but it
     still tells you *everything* about the program.
     -----

I was surprised to see him speaking of disassembling code, something 
that requires having the executable, in response to my comments. He 
later said he did not mean his comments to be applied to the bot.

Um, OK. I accept the are not.

Really I cannot understand why this is at all an ongoing topic or source 
of frustration for anyone.

>>> You appear to have spent much of your life 'looking over your
>>> shoulder' - why?  Most of us don't do that.
>>
>> If by that you mean, I'm aware of my surroundings, then sure. if by
>> most of us, you mean the sheeple, then no, I'm not like them, and I
>> wouldn't encourage anyone else to be, either. I prefer to think for
>> myself and be responsible for my own decisions and their outcomes. I
>> require no hand holding and no safety net. I'm genX, David.
>>
>> I rode my bike without a helmet, I rode in the beds of pickup trucks. I
>> played with firecrackers, and didn't blow any piece of me or a friend
>> off, nor did I set fire to the yard and/or nearby neighborhood.
> 
> It appears that you are a bit like me in so many ways! ;-)

I did much the same. Does not mean I do not see the value to more of a 
focus on safety as we learn more.


-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2020-06-24 05:13 +0000
  Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-06-23 22:34 -0700
  Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-06-24 13:02 +0100
    Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-06-24 21:52 +0100
      Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2020-07-03 10:58 +0000
        Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough FromTheRafters <erratic@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-07-03 07:26 -0400
    Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2020-07-02 00:45 +0000
      Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-01 18:10 -0700
        Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-07-02 08:09 +0100
          Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-02 07:38 +0000
            Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-07-02 08:47 +0100
              Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-02 08:18 +0000
                Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-07-02 09:33 +0100
                Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-02 12:12 -0700
                Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough D. Moen <dmoenfactual4@email.net> - 2020-07-02 15:51 -0400
                Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-07-02 20:53 +0100
                Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-02 16:00 -0700
                Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2020-07-03 08:53 -0300
                Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2020-07-03 10:58 +0000
                Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-03 09:28 -0700
                Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2020-07-04 23:27 +0000
                Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-04 17:05 -0700
                Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-04 17:53 -0700
                Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2020-07-05 05:54 +0000
                Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-04 23:50 -0700
                Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough FromTheRafters <erratic@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-07-05 06:39 -0400
                Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-05 03:46 -0700
                Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough FromTheRafters <erratic@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-07-05 07:36 -0400
                Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-05 11:44 +0000
                Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough FromTheRafters <erratic@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-07-05 07:50 -0400
                Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-05 11:53 +0000
          Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2020-07-03 10:58 +0000
            Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-03 09:28 -0700
      Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-07-02 14:43 +0100
        Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-02 15:59 -0700
        Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2020-07-03 10:58 +0000
          Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2020-07-04 01:08 +0000
            Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-03 18:31 -0700
              Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2020-07-04 23:27 +0000
            Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Jose Soto <emaildumps127.0.1@noemail4me.net> - 2020-07-04 08:23 -0400
            Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2020-07-04 23:27 +0000

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