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Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough

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On 02/07/2020 08:38, Snit wrote:
> David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>> On 02/07/2020 02:10, Snit wrote:
>>> On 7/1/20 5:45 PM, Diesel wrote:
>>>> David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org>
>>>> news:ThHIG.67536$iXb1.4658@fx03.ams1 Wed, 24 Jun 2020 12:02:58 GMT
>>>> in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 24/06/2020 06:13, Diesel wrote:
>>>>>> David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org>
>>>>>> news:37pIG.67387$iXb1.29833@fx03.ams1 Tue, 23 Jun 2020 15:22:38
>>>>>> GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 23/06/2020 10:34, Diesel wrote:
>>>>>>>> He took something I wrote, entirely out context, didn't bother
>>>>>>>> to understand nay a word of it; see where I wrote 'something'
>>>>>>>> and 'program' later? I was writing in a general sense! Your
>>>>>>>> friend either didn't realize that (how could you not?) or does,
>>>>>>>> and still tried to use it to backup their BS story!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Show me a post where I clarified I only had the compiled code
>>>>>>>> after "being called out" for it, David. I can't seem to find
>>>>>>>> any.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Seriously, you want my help with the bot? Want me to work with
>>>>>>>> others, instead of solo and share info, etc? I want something
>>>>>>>> from you, then. A show of honesty, a good gesture on your part,
>>>>>>>> for old times, then.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Don't cover for your friend, Snit. Call him out for lying about
>>>>>>>> me. You *cannot*  claim what he wrote isn't exactly what I'm
>>>>>>>> writing that it is, David.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'd like to bang both of your heads together! :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> :) You have no idea how much I'd like the ability to have
>>>>>> :physical
>>>>>> contact with you for a few moments.  Oh the discussion we'd have.
>>>>>> rofl.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think you mean that you'd like to beat me - like your parents
>>>>> did to you as a child?
>>>>
>>>> David, I won't deny the thought has crossed my mind on several
>>>> occasions; what I'd do if I ever met you in person. Sure. That being
>>>> said, I always found myself coming back to the reasonable decision; the
>>>> only reasonable decision, talk to you, try to explain things to you in
>>>> person. I think alot of our initial problem stemmed from a
>>>> misunderstanding, or a series of them.
>>>
>>> The same is true with you and I. We had some misunderstandings.
>>>
>>> I want to move forward in peace.
>>
>> Me too.
>>
>>> To you it is of paramount importance that I "admit", whether I agree or
>>> not, to your view of things. And since I do not agree this means you
>>> need to me to lie. When this is pointed out you go back to you merely
>>> need me to agree to your view. Which is what I keep saying.
>>>
>>> You have a story you tell yourself about how you are some amazing
>>> hero... and key to your story is you need a villain. A capable and
>>> worthy villain. In that way you flatter David and I by selecting us as
>>> the villains in your personal story, but it is not a role I want, nor
>>> one I think David wants.
>>>
>>> Why not just move forward? OK, we disagreed in the past. We each think
>>> the other was wrong, even dishonest. So? It is not like I am asking you
>>> to marry me -- I merely want civility.
>>
>> :-D
>>
>>> I have asked repeatedly -- but you so far have not accepted that as a
>>> possibility.
>>>
>>> Do you know what it would take for you to grow to the point you could?
>>> If so perhaps I can help you get there (or not -- I certainly make no
>>> promises).
>>
>> It really is most kind of you to offer to help Diesel.
> 
> While there is certainly an adversarial (though playful) tone toward him
> the offer is sincere.

Noted! We have much in common! ;-)
>> I'm not too good at following the long discourses you two have 'enjoyed'
>> but I did think that Diesel was going to determine who was making the
>> flood posts. I never thought he was responsible in any way for /making/
>> such posts. I don't think YOU thought so either.
> 
> Correct. It shocked me when he spoke of decompiling in response to my
> comments about the bot. He has long since said he did not mean to imply he
> had the code or executable, and I have said I have no belief he does for
> almost as long.
> 
> He for some reason needs me to say I agree with him on details of that
> misunderstanding of which I don’t agree. It is odd — similar to if I
> insisted he apologize for falsely assuming I built my view of him blindly
> based on what you said (paraphrasing). He was wrong. But so what? Certainly
> not worth demanding he agree with me he was in error and apologize. Hell,
> he can still hold onto that incorrect belief and I would still want peace.

I don't want him to hurt you in any way just because you and I are pals.

Perhaps he's just been too busy with other things to investigate 
Carroll's involvement.

D.

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  Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-06-24 13:02 +0100
    Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-06-24 21:52 +0100
      Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2020-07-03 10:58 +0000
        Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough FromTheRafters <erratic@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-07-03 07:26 -0400
    Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2020-07-02 00:45 +0000
      Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-01 18:10 -0700
        Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-07-02 08:09 +0100
          Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-02 07:38 +0000
            Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-07-02 08:47 +0100
              Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-02 08:18 +0000
                Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-07-02 09:33 +0100
                Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-02 12:12 -0700
                Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough D. Moen <dmoenfactual4@email.net> - 2020-07-02 15:51 -0400
                Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-07-02 20:53 +0100
                Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-02 16:00 -0700
                Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2020-07-03 08:53 -0300
                Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2020-07-03 10:58 +0000
                Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-03 09:28 -0700
                Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2020-07-04 23:27 +0000
                Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-04 17:05 -0700
                Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-04 17:53 -0700
                Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2020-07-05 05:54 +0000
                Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-04 23:50 -0700
                Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough FromTheRafters <erratic@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-07-05 06:39 -0400
                Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-05 03:46 -0700
                Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough FromTheRafters <erratic@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-07-05 07:36 -0400
                Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-05 11:44 +0000
                Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough FromTheRafters <erratic@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-07-05 07:50 -0400
                Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-05 11:53 +0000
          Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2020-07-03 10:58 +0000
            Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-03 09:28 -0700
      Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-07-02 14:43 +0100
        Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-02 15:59 -0700
        Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2020-07-03 10:58 +0000
          Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2020-07-04 01:08 +0000
            Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-03 18:31 -0700
              Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2020-07-04 23:27 +0000
            Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Jose Soto <emaildumps127.0.1@noemail4me.net> - 2020-07-04 08:23 -0400
            Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2020-07-04 23:27 +0000

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