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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.computer.workshop, comp.os.linux.advocacy |
| Subject | Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough |
| Date | 2020-07-02 07:38 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <hm5h8aF1alhU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
| References | (11 earlier) <XnsABE6D315A327HT1@6JySW46m3.Y6jy9181jChOkrX.nsi34Z5> <ThHIG.67536$iXb1.4658@fx03.ams1> <XnsABEDD3FDE75CFHT1@TP2vv5338EJ4xWGYnB6176y2D6KHSRjVi1ysa.eQUV68drJBT19X0Q9F2923sJ> <hm4qgsFrcn9U1@mid.individual.net> <0LfLG.202799$Og6.39693@fx01.ams1> |
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David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote: > On 02/07/2020 02:10, Snit wrote: >> On 7/1/20 5:45 PM, Diesel wrote: >>> David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> >>> news:ThHIG.67536$iXb1.4658@fx03.ams1 Wed, 24 Jun 2020 12:02:58 GMT >>> in alt.computer.workshop, wrote: >>> >>>> On 24/06/2020 06:13, Diesel wrote: >>>>> David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> >>>>> news:37pIG.67387$iXb1.29833@fx03.ams1 Tue, 23 Jun 2020 15:22:38 >>>>> GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 23/06/2020 10:34, Diesel wrote: >>>>>>> He took something I wrote, entirely out context, didn't bother >>>>>>> to understand nay a word of it; see where I wrote 'something' >>>>>>> and 'program' later? I was writing in a general sense! Your >>>>>>> friend either didn't realize that (how could you not?) or does, >>>>>>> and still tried to use it to backup their BS story! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Show me a post where I clarified I only had the compiled code >>>>>>> after "being called out" for it, David. I can't seem to find >>>>>>> any. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Seriously, you want my help with the bot? Want me to work with >>>>>>> others, instead of solo and share info, etc? I want something >>>>>>> from you, then. A show of honesty, a good gesture on your part, >>>>>>> for old times, then. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Don't cover for your friend, Snit. Call him out for lying about >>>>>>> me. You *cannot* claim what he wrote isn't exactly what I'm >>>>>>> writing that it is, David. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'd like to bang both of your heads together! :-) >>>>> >>>>> :) You have no idea how much I'd like the ability to have >>>>> :physical >>>>> contact with you for a few moments. Oh the discussion we'd have. >>>>> rofl. >>>> >>>> I think you mean that you'd like to beat me - like your parents >>>> did to you as a child? >>> >>> David, I won't deny the thought has crossed my mind on several >>> occasions; what I'd do if I ever met you in person. Sure. That being >>> said, I always found myself coming back to the reasonable decision; the >>> only reasonable decision, talk to you, try to explain things to you in >>> person. I think alot of our initial problem stemmed from a >>> misunderstanding, or a series of them. >> >> The same is true with you and I. We had some misunderstandings. >> >> I want to move forward in peace. > > Me too. > >> To you it is of paramount importance that I "admit", whether I agree or >> not, to your view of things. And since I do not agree this means you >> need to me to lie. When this is pointed out you go back to you merely >> need me to agree to your view. Which is what I keep saying. >> >> You have a story you tell yourself about how you are some amazing >> hero... and key to your story is you need a villain. A capable and >> worthy villain. In that way you flatter David and I by selecting us as >> the villains in your personal story, but it is not a role I want, nor >> one I think David wants. >> >> Why not just move forward? OK, we disagreed in the past. We each think >> the other was wrong, even dishonest. So? It is not like I am asking you >> to marry me -- I merely want civility. > > :-D > >> I have asked repeatedly -- but you so far have not accepted that as a >> possibility. >> >> Do you know what it would take for you to grow to the point you could? >> If so perhaps I can help you get there (or not -- I certainly make no >> promises). > > It really is most kind of you to offer to help Diesel. While there is certainly an adversarial (though playful) tone toward him the offer is sincere. > I'm not too good at following the long discourses you two have 'enjoyed' > but I did think that Diesel was going to determine who was making the > flood posts. I never thought he was responsible in any way for /making/ > such posts. I don't think YOU thought so either. Correct. It shocked me when he spoke of decompiling in response to my comments about the bot. He has long since said he did not mean to imply he had the code or executable, and I have said I have no belief he does for almost as long. He for some reason needs me to say I agree with him on details of that misunderstanding of which I don’t agree. It is odd — similar to if I insisted he apologize for falsely assuming I built my view of him blindly based on what you said (paraphrasing). He was wrong. But so what? Certainly not worth demanding he agree with me he was in error and apologize. Hell, he can still hold onto that incorrect belief and I would still want peace. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
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Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2020-06-24 05:13 +0000
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-06-23 22:34 -0700
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-06-24 13:02 +0100
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-06-24 21:52 +0100
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2020-07-03 10:58 +0000
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough FromTheRafters <erratic@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-07-03 07:26 -0400
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2020-07-02 00:45 +0000
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-01 18:10 -0700
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-07-02 08:09 +0100
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-02 07:38 +0000
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-07-02 08:47 +0100
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-02 08:18 +0000
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-07-02 09:33 +0100
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-02 12:12 -0700
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough D. Moen <dmoenfactual4@email.net> - 2020-07-02 15:51 -0400
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-07-02 20:53 +0100
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-02 16:00 -0700
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2020-07-03 08:53 -0300
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2020-07-03 10:58 +0000
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-03 09:28 -0700
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2020-07-04 23:27 +0000
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-04 17:05 -0700
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-04 17:53 -0700
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2020-07-05 05:54 +0000
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-04 23:50 -0700
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough FromTheRafters <erratic@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-07-05 06:39 -0400
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-05 03:46 -0700
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough FromTheRafters <erratic@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-07-05 07:36 -0400
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-05 11:44 +0000
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough FromTheRafters <erratic@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-07-05 07:50 -0400
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-05 11:53 +0000
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2020-07-03 10:58 +0000
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-03 09:28 -0700
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-07-02 14:43 +0100
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-02 15:59 -0700
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2020-07-03 10:58 +0000
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2020-07-04 01:08 +0000
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-03 18:31 -0700
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2020-07-04 23:27 +0000
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Jose Soto <emaildumps127.0.1@noemail4me.net> - 2020-07-04 08:23 -0400
Re: Things Have to Breakdown Before They Breakthrough Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2020-07-04 23:27 +0000
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