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Re: OT: driving licences

From "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Newsgroups alt.comp.os.windows-10
Subject Re: OT: driving licences
Date 2025-11-25 08:36 +0100
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On 2025-10-08 13:16, Daniel70 wrote:
> On 8/10/2025 8:14 pm, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2025-10-07 18:15, Chris wrote:
>>> Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>>> On 2025-10-07 13:10, Daniel70 wrote:
>>>>> On 7/10/2025 5:58 am, The Horny Goat wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 19 Aug 2025 00:38:46 +1000, Daniel70 
>>>>>> <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And talking about STUPIDITY!! ..... When I got my
>>>>>>> Probationary Licence (so allowed to drive by myself),
>>>>>>> Probationary Drivers HAD to display a 'P' plate, front and
>>>>>>> rear of car, AND HAD AN 80KM/H (50MPH) MAXIMUM SPEED
>>>>>>> LIMIT.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In these parts they have an "L" and a "N" card that you were
>>>>>> required to display - "L" meant "learner" meaning you had to
>>>>>> have a licenced driver in the passenger seat while "N" is
>>>>>> what you got after successfully doing your road test and had
>>>>>> to display for your first two years.
>>>>>
>>>>> Similar here in Victoria, Australia. From age 17 years, you can
>>>>> get your 'L' (Learner) plates (Black 'L' on a Yellow
>>>>> background) which entitles you to drive when accompanied by a
>>>>> fully licenced, *SOBER* , driver. I'm not sure if they are
>>>>> allowed to carry any other passengers.
>>>>>
>>>>> When you pass your Drivers Test (You, your licenced driver plus
>>>>> Test official), you get your 'P' (Probationary) Plates (Red 'P'
>>>>> on White background) that you have to display whilst driving
>>>>> for three years, I think.
>>>>
>>>> Here (Spain) the L is used both for learning and during the first
>>>> year after passing the test.
>>>>
>>>> However, during learning they are using a special "driving
>>>> school" car, which has also the school advertising on the roof
>>>> besides the L. After passing the exam, and obtaining the license,
>>>> they have to put a green L sign behind the rear side glass.
>>>
>>> Sounds similar to the french system; you can only learn through a
>>> driving school. Then display an "A" for three years after you pass
>>> plus you have specific speed limits. Although, I don't know how
>>> well this is followed as you almost never see these stickers on
>>> cars.
>>
>> I forgot to mention that all driving school cars have double
>> controls. I mean, the instructor has at least pedals, so instant
>> brake in emergency. Or acceleration.
>>
>> And the exam is done in the same type of car, probably the same
>> physical car. The double pedal has a signal of some sort, so that the
>> examiner, sitting in the back, knows instantly of the instructor
>> intervention and fails the exam.
>>
>> A relatively recent modification is that there is an specific license
>> for automated shift cars. But a person with such a license is
>> forbidden from driving a standard sift/gear car.
> 
> Similarly, here in Victoria, if you take your TEST in an Automatic car,
> you are licenced to drive an Automatic car .... at least initially.
> 
> Our licences are for Ten years. I think, at the end of that ten years,
> you are deemed to be competent to drive either a Manual or Automatic
> car, so can drive either.

They expect you to magically learn? :-)

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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                Re: OT: driving licences "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-07 14:36 +0200
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