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Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container

From Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de>
Newsgroups ger.ct
Subject Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container
Date 2019-03-27 15:57 +0100
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Am 27.03.19 um 15:27 schrieb Bonita Montero:
>>> Hä? Das sieht man doch am Source wenn der Compiler
>>> nicht gerade einen Bug hat ...
> 
>> Nicht immer.
> 
>> Ich habe auch schon in C bei *[ Konstrukte
>> im Assembler code nachgeschaut, was da eigentlich
>> passiert.

> Um zu verstehen, was da _funktional_ passiert braucht man das
> nicht.

Wenn man das Spiel ist das pointer to array oder array to
nicht eingeübt ist, schon.

> Höchstens um zu verstehen, was der Compiler draus macht
> bzw. wie er es optimiert.

Das kann sehr abenteuerlich werden.
Wenn ein compiler einen arithmetischen Ausdruck
an Stellen Ausführt, die weit von der
Zuweisung sind.
Z. B. code aus einer Schleife rausnimmt ..


>> Und Klassen aus unbekannten Bibliotheken sehe ich
>> oft auch nicht an, was da eigentlich passiert.

> Dann guck in den Code; das ist Größenordnungen einfacher
> zu verstehen als ein Disassembly nachzuvollziehen.

Als so etwas wie zugehörige #define oder template suche?
Wenn ich da >=4 Dinger Suchen muss
geht Disassembly  einfach schneller.

Hermann
    der auf 86-Rechner bisher kein Assembler code
    verwendet hat.
    ( Auf IBM 360 und 68000 Typen schon )

-- 
http://www.hermann-riemann.de

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default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-25 10:53 +0100
  Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-25 11:56 +0100
    Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-25 04:05 -0700
      Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-25 12:18 +0100
        Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-25 05:31 -0700
          Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Klaus Dahlwitz <kdahlwitz@gmx.net> - 2019-03-25 13:35 +0100
            Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-25 13:46 +0100
            Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-25 07:40 -0700
          Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-25 13:45 +0100
            Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-25 07:51 -0700
              Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-25 16:54 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2019-03-25 18:05 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-25 18:20 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2019-03-25 18:32 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-25 19:33 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-26 01:58 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-26 10:02 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-26 02:16 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-26 10:30 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-26 02:40 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2019-03-27 14:16 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-27 15:29 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2019-03-27 15:41 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2019-03-27 15:48 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2019-03-27 16:04 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-27 08:39 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2019-03-27 15:56 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-27 16:17 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Wolfgang Kynast <wky@gmx.de> - 2019-03-27 17:17 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container "Peter Heitzer" <peter.heitzer@rz.uni-regensburg.de> - 2019-03-26 08:16 +0000
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-26 09:21 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container "Peter Heitzer" <peter.heitzer@rz.uni-regensburg.de> - 2019-03-26 12:11 +0000
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-26 07:30 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2019-03-26 15:38 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-26 15:42 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-26 15:41 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-26 01:54 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-26 09:57 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-26 01:53 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-26 09:55 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-26 02:00 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-26 10:03 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-26 02:19 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-26 10:31 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-26 02:41 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-26 10:47 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2019-03-27 15:31 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-27 15:41 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2019-03-27 15:59 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2019-03-27 16:09 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-27 16:16 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-27 16:15 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2019-03-27 16:00 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2019-03-27 16:07 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-27 08:36 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-27 16:44 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-28 10:58 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Frank Klingenhoefer <frank.private@t-online.de> - 2019-03-28 19:50 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-28 20:36 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2019-03-27 16:04 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-27 16:09 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-27 08:42 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-27 16:46 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-28 11:01 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-28 20:40 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-28 12:53 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-28 21:01 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-28 15:18 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-29 06:47 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-29 14:58 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-30 08:24 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2019-04-08 11:39 +0200
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Reinhold Glaser <spam.honey.pot@abwesend.de> - 2019-03-28 14:47 +0000
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-28 17:02 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-28 11:30 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-28 20:41 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2019-03-30 11:17 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-30 11:41 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Dietz Proepper <dietz-news@rotfl.franken.de> - 2019-03-30 12:52 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-30 13:04 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Wolfgang  Εnzinger <we_usenet@nurfuerspam.de> - 2019-03-30 13:24 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-30 13:29 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-30 06:19 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-30 17:27 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-04-01 08:56 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-04-01 09:25 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-04-01 20:09 +0200
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-04-01 16:08 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-04-02 07:20 +0200
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-04-01 20:06 +0200
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-04-01 20:00 +0200
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Wolfgang  Εnzinger <we_usenet@nurfuerspam.de> - 2019-04-25 00:07 +0200
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-30 06:14 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2019-03-30 14:46 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Wolfgang Kynast <wky@gmx.de> - 2019-03-30 15:03 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-30 06:10 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2019-03-30 14:48 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-30 17:28 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Dietz Proepper <dietz-news@rotfl.franken.de> - 2019-03-30 15:09 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-30 06:04 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2019-03-30 17:22 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-30 17:32 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2019-04-09 11:27 +0200
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-04-09 19:40 +0200
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Wolfgang Kynast <wky@gmx.de> - 2019-03-27 18:06 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-27 18:59 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-28 11:08 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2019-03-28 19:18 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-28 11:51 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Carlo XYZ <carloxyz@invalid.invalid> - 2019-03-28 19:59 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-28 12:11 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-28 20:43 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Carlo XYZ <carloxyz@invalid.invalid> - 2019-03-28 19:35 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-28 11:55 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2019-03-27 14:55 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-27 15:27 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2019-03-27 15:57 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-27 16:12 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container "Peter Heitzer" <peter.heitzer@rz.uni-regensburg.de> - 2019-03-27 16:47 +0000
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-26 01:48 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-26 09:54 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2019-03-27 15:36 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-27 15:44 +0100
          Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Wolfgang Kynast <wky@gmx.de> - 2019-03-25 18:03 +0100
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