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Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container

From Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de>
Newsgroups ger.ct
Subject Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container
Date 2019-03-25 18:05 +0100
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Am 25.03.19 um 16:54 schrieb Bonita Montero:

> Was hat das jetzt mit dem Thema zu tun?
> Du redetest sinngemäß daher, dass C++-Code aufwendiger zu programmieren
> ist als C-Code, und ich erklärte dir, dass das eben nicht so ist.

Wenn man den Lernaufwand und die Zeit zum Auffinden
der passenden Module hinzurechnet, vielleicht schon.
>>> aber C++ ist eben auch Größenordnungen mächtiger als C.

>> Nein. Turing-Äquivalent, alle beide. Alles andere ist
>> subjektiv.

> [ ] Du verstehst was ich mit mächtig meine.

Das man mit wenig Arbeitsaufwand incl. Fehlersuche viel erreicht.

Für manche Probleme ist das lisp Spitze,
weil man da mit eval Programm mässig generierten code
ohne Umwege wie compiler direkt weitgehend automatisch entwickeln kann.

> In deinem Sinne ist auch handeklöppelter Hex-Machinencode so mächtig
> wie C++. Und meine Feststellung ist nicht subjektiv. C++ bietet sehr
> viel mehr nützliche Sprachmittel und ist dadurch wesentlich mächtiger.

Für meinen Z80 mit direkter interrupt mode 2 Programmierung
kam keine Programmiersprache an die direkte hexcode Eingabe heran.

Hermann
    der den Eindruck hat,
    das wenn er seine wenigen paar 100 Zeilen große privaten C Programme
    durch C++ Programme ersetzten würde,
    er mit Kanonen nach Spatzen schießen würde.
    Und das meiste mittlerweile in Python3 programmiert.

-- 
http://www.hermann-riemann.de

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default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-25 10:53 +0100
  Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-25 11:56 +0100
    Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-25 04:05 -0700
      Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-25 12:18 +0100
        Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-25 05:31 -0700
          Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Klaus Dahlwitz <kdahlwitz@gmx.net> - 2019-03-25 13:35 +0100
            Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-25 13:46 +0100
            Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-25 07:40 -0700
          Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-25 13:45 +0100
            Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-25 07:51 -0700
              Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-25 16:54 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2019-03-25 18:05 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-25 18:20 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2019-03-25 18:32 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-25 19:33 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-26 01:58 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-26 10:02 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-26 02:16 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-26 10:30 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-26 02:40 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2019-03-27 14:16 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-27 15:29 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2019-03-27 15:41 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2019-03-27 15:48 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2019-03-27 16:04 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-27 08:39 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2019-03-27 15:56 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-27 16:17 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Wolfgang Kynast <wky@gmx.de> - 2019-03-27 17:17 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container "Peter Heitzer" <peter.heitzer@rz.uni-regensburg.de> - 2019-03-26 08:16 +0000
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-26 09:21 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container "Peter Heitzer" <peter.heitzer@rz.uni-regensburg.de> - 2019-03-26 12:11 +0000
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-26 07:30 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2019-03-26 15:38 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-26 15:42 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-26 15:41 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-26 01:54 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-26 09:57 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-26 01:53 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-26 09:55 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-26 02:00 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-26 10:03 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-26 02:19 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-26 10:31 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-26 02:41 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-26 10:47 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2019-03-27 15:31 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-27 15:41 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2019-03-27 15:59 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2019-03-27 16:09 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-27 16:16 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-27 16:15 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2019-03-27 16:00 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2019-03-27 16:07 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-27 08:36 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-27 16:44 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-28 10:58 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Frank Klingenhoefer <frank.private@t-online.de> - 2019-03-28 19:50 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-28 20:36 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2019-03-27 16:04 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-27 16:09 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-27 08:42 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-27 16:46 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-28 11:01 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-28 20:40 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-28 12:53 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-28 21:01 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-28 15:18 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-29 06:47 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-29 14:58 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-30 08:24 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2019-04-08 11:39 +0200
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Reinhold Glaser <spam.honey.pot@abwesend.de> - 2019-03-28 14:47 +0000
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-28 17:02 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-28 11:30 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-28 20:41 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2019-03-30 11:17 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-30 11:41 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Dietz Proepper <dietz-news@rotfl.franken.de> - 2019-03-30 12:52 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-30 13:04 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Wolfgang  Εnzinger <we_usenet@nurfuerspam.de> - 2019-03-30 13:24 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-30 13:29 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-30 06:19 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-30 17:27 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-04-01 08:56 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-04-01 09:25 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-04-01 20:09 +0200
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-04-01 16:08 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-04-02 07:20 +0200
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-04-01 20:06 +0200
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-04-01 20:00 +0200
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Wolfgang  Εnzinger <we_usenet@nurfuerspam.de> - 2019-04-25 00:07 +0200
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-30 06:14 -0700
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                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Wolfgang Kynast <wky@gmx.de> - 2019-03-30 15:03 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-30 06:10 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2019-03-30 14:48 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-30 17:28 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Dietz Proepper <dietz-news@rotfl.franken.de> - 2019-03-30 15:09 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-30 06:04 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2019-03-30 17:22 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-30 17:32 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2019-04-09 11:27 +0200
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-04-09 19:40 +0200
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Wolfgang Kynast <wky@gmx.de> - 2019-03-27 18:06 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-27 18:59 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-28 11:08 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2019-03-28 19:18 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-28 11:51 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Carlo XYZ <carloxyz@invalid.invalid> - 2019-03-28 19:59 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-28 12:11 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-28 20:43 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Carlo XYZ <carloxyz@invalid.invalid> - 2019-03-28 19:35 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-28 11:55 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2019-03-27 14:55 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-27 15:27 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2019-03-27 15:57 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-27 16:12 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container "Peter Heitzer" <peter.heitzer@rz.uni-regensburg.de> - 2019-03-27 16:47 +0000
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-26 01:48 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-26 09:54 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2019-03-27 15:36 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-27 15:44 +0100
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