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Re: This is what good old systemd has done to me...

From "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net>
Newsgroups alt.os.linux
Subject Re: This is what good old systemd has done to me...
Date 2019-01-14 21:15 +0100
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On 1/14/19 8:39 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 14/01/2019 20.00, J.O. Aho wrote:
>> On 1/14/19 1:25 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>> On 14/01/2019 07.05, J.O. Aho wrote:
>>>> On 1/14/19 2:02 AM, F. Russell wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 13 Jan 2019 15:23:24 -0600, Ike wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> And people have accused me of simply
>>>>>> hating systemd for no reason.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> For a personal workstation systemd is a TOTALLY UNNECESSARY and
>>>>> massive layer of pure junk.  Anyone stupid enough to accept it
>>>>> will reject all counterarguments for its usefulness.
>>>>
>>>> I can see some use of systemd on single user workstation, but not on
>>>> servers.
>>>
>>> My server uses systemd. No problem at all, never crashes.
>>
>> systemd gives you more security issues, this much due of it's bad habit
>> to eat other projects, compared with the other init systems out there,
>> we haven't seen as much of security issues as we have done in systemd.
> 
> However, if the distribution I use would ignore reported security issues
> related to systemd, then I would be worried. As they are using system in
> production servers in their business products, I don't worry.

Not all security issues are found by the developers themselves or in 
this case the distributions maintainers, there could be a number of 
security issues no one on the "good side" knows, but someone on the 
other side do, this of course do not just apply to systemd but any other 
software out there.

What we know is that systemd is discovered to have really serious 
security issues, not that long time ago that they found a remote code 
execution issue. Even if the issue is patched, it don't mean that there 
ain't unpatched machines out there.


> However, the claim in this thread is that "mail failed" and of course,
> it has to be systemd, wihout even looking :-p

Didn't comment on the microsoft windows users flawed claim but what 
Russell wrote.


> Given that, I claim that mine works without any trouble for years. :-)

Sure, there are people still running microsoft windows xp and it's been 
working for them.


-- 

  //Aho

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This is what good old systemd has done to me... Ike <Ike@google.com> - 2019-01-13 15:23 -0600
  Re: This is what good old systemd has done to me... William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-01-13 22:39 +0000
    Re: This is what good old systemd has done to me... "Ike" <Ike@google.com> - 2019-01-13 18:28 -0600
      Re: This is what good old systemd has done to me... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-01-14 02:08 +0100
        Re: This is what good old systemd has done to me... "Tech Systems" <querry@tci.com> - 2019-01-14 06:52 -0600
          Re: This is what good old systemd has done to me... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-01-14 15:50 +0100
          Re: This is what good old systemd has done to me... Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2019-01-14 16:09 +0000
            Re: This is what good old systemd has done to me... Yrrah <Yrrah-aol@aol.invalid> - 2019-01-14 19:35 +0100
          Re: This is what good old systemd has done to me... Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2019-01-15 00:05 +0100
        Re: This is what good old systemd has done to me... Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2019-01-19 08:33 -0500
    Re: This is what good old systemd has done to me... Yrrah <Yrrah-aol@aol.invalid> - 2019-01-14 14:00 +0100
      Re: This is what good old systemd has done to me... "Tech Systems" <querry@tci.com> - 2019-01-14 07:07 -0600
        Re: This is what good old systemd has done to me... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-01-14 15:53 +0100
          Re: This is what good old systemd has done to me... "Tech Systems" <querry@tci.com> - 2019-01-14 09:53 -0600
          Re: This is what good old systemd has done to me... Yrrah <Yrrah-aol@aol.invalid> - 2019-01-14 18:37 +0100
            Re: This is what good old systemd has done to me... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-01-14 19:53 +0100
      Re: This is what good old systemd has done to me... Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> - 2019-01-14 13:08 +0000
        Re: This is what good old systemd has done to me... Johnny <johnny@invalid.net> - 2019-01-14 08:35 -0600
      Re: This is what good old systemd has done to me... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-01-14 15:53 +0100
  Re: This is what good old systemd has done to me... Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-13 17:46 -0500
    Re: This is what good old systemd has done to me... "Ike" <Ike@google.com> - 2019-01-13 18:30 -0600
      Re: This is what good old systemd has done to me... Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2019-01-15 00:03 +0100
  Re: This is what good old systemd has done to me... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-01-13 23:50 +0100
  Re: This is what good old systemd has done to me... "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2019-01-14 01:02 +0000
    Re: This is what good old systemd has done to me... bad sector <forgetski@postit_INVALID_.gov> - 2019-01-13 20:14 -0500
    Re: This is what good old systemd has done to me... Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2019-01-14 01:21 +0000
    Re: This is what good old systemd has done to me... "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2019-01-14 07:05 +0100
      Re: This is what good old systemd has done to me... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-01-14 13:25 +0100
        Re: This is what good old systemd has done to me... "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2019-01-14 20:00 +0100
          Re: This is what good old systemd has done to me... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-01-14 20:39 +0100
            Re: This is what good old systemd has done to me... "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2019-01-14 21:15 +0100
    Re: This is what good old systemd has done to me... Tech Systems <querry@tci.com> - 2019-01-14 07:00 -0600
    Re: This is what good old systemd has done to me... Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2019-01-14 19:51 +0000
    Re: This is what good old systemd has done to me... queequeg@trust.no1 (Queequeg) - 2019-01-18 11:42 +0000
      Re: This is what good old systemd has done to me... Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2019-01-18 11:59 +0000
        Re: This is what good old systemd has done to me... Eric Pozharski <whynot@pozharski.name> - 2019-01-20 18:04 +0200
      Re: This is what good old systemd has done to me... Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> - 2019-01-18 14:24 +0000
        Re: This is what good old systemd has done to me... "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-18 09:23 -0600
          Re: This is what good old systemd has done to me... Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> - 2019-01-18 15:26 +0000
        Re: This is what good old systemd has done to me... Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-01-18 19:14 +0000
          Re: This is what good old systemd has done to me... "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2019-01-19 10:07 +0100
      Re: This is what good old systemd has done to me... Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-01-18 19:16 +0000
        Re: This is what good old systemd has done to me... William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-01-18 23:02 +0000
          Re: This is what good old systemd has done to me... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-01-19 05:43 +0100
            Re: This is what good old systemd has done to me... William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-01-19 04:56 +0000
              Re: This is what good old systemd has done to me... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-01-19 06:07 +0100
            Re: This is what good old systemd has done to me... "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2019-01-19 10:24 +0100
              Re: This is what good old systemd has done to me... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-01-19 14:39 +0100
                Re: This is what good old systemd has done to me... "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2019-01-19 20:57 +0100
        Re: This is what good old systemd has done to me... "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2019-01-19 10:08 +0100

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