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| From | "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.os.linux |
| Subject | Re: This is what good old systemd has done to me... |
| Date | 2019-01-19 10:07 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <gag7meF4e8vU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
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On 1/18/19 8:14 PM, Melzzzzz wrote: > On 2019-01-18, Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> wrote: >> On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 11:42:42 +0000, Queequeg scribbled: >> >>> In comp.os.linux.misc F. Russell <fr@random.info> wrote: >>> >>>> For a personal workstation systemd is a TOTALLY UNNECESSARY and massive >>>> layer of pure junk. Anyone stupid enough to accept it will reject all >>>> counterarguments for its usefulness. >>> >>> I'm still wondering what was the reason for replacing sysvinit with >>> systemd in default Debian installations despite users' protests. >> >> For most part, the fact that Debian wishes to continue supporting GNOME, >> which has more or less always been the default Debian desktop >> environment. >> >> systemd, GNOME/GDM and GTK+ are all developed at RedHat, and Lennart >> Poettering, the developer of systemd, asked the GNOME/GDM developers to >> make systemd into a hard dependency of GNOME/GDM. So without systemd -- >> and most specifically, logind, which is part of the systemd suite -- you >> cannot have GNOME 3 on your system anymore. Given that systemd is tied >> to the Linux kernel, this also implies that GNOME 3 cannot be used on any >> other UNIX variants than GNU/Linux anymore. > > Not true. > https://www.freebsd.org/gnome/ There been projects like systembsd and elogind to come around the hard dependency to systemd when you want to install gnome3 on systems with a proper multi os supporting init system, so even GNU/Linux systems can run gnome3, not just systemd/linux. -- //Aho
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Re: This is what good old systemd has done to me... queequeg@trust.no1 (Queequeg) - 2019-01-18 11:42 +0000
Re: This is what good old systemd has done to me... Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2019-01-18 11:59 +0000
Re: This is what good old systemd has done to me... Eric Pozharski <whynot@pozharski.name> - 2019-01-20 18:04 +0200
Re: This is what good old systemd has done to me... Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> - 2019-01-18 14:24 +0000
Re: This is what good old systemd has done to me... "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-18 09:23 -0600
Re: This is what good old systemd has done to me... Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> - 2019-01-18 15:26 +0000
Re: This is what good old systemd has done to me... Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-01-18 19:14 +0000
Re: This is what good old systemd has done to me... "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2019-01-19 10:07 +0100
Re: This is what good old systemd has done to me... Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-01-18 19:16 +0000
Re: This is what good old systemd has done to me... William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-01-18 23:02 +0000
Re: This is what good old systemd has done to me... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-01-19 05:43 +0100
Re: This is what good old systemd has done to me... William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-01-19 04:56 +0000
Re: This is what good old systemd has done to me... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-01-19 06:07 +0100
Re: This is what good old systemd has done to me... "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2019-01-19 10:24 +0100
Re: This is what good old systemd has done to me... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-01-19 14:39 +0100
Re: This is what good old systemd has done to me... "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2019-01-19 20:57 +0100
Re: This is what good old systemd has done to me... "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2019-01-19 10:08 +0100
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