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Re: You're biased, like a used car salesman, not a scientist.

From Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: You're biased, like a used car salesman, not a scientist.
Date 2018-09-15 00:50 -0700
Message-ID <g03ru6Fp1a1U2@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
References (2 earlier) <j94lpdh56hosoa2hvh2ukqfdlucp1iqreg@4ax.com> <1v7npdprsl2ig18tqoi7sn0j6nfp1e2162@4ax.com> <u7OmD.12522$um3.1229@fx32.iad> <g03ffgFmkfpU3@mid.individual.net> <Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.15--0.11am.Seattle.2018>

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On 9/15/18 12:11 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
>> I will not accept idiots like Alex Jones as a reliable source.
> 
> Alex Jones is a mental midget, a yappy little dog.

At best.

>> I will not reject well established science without a very good reason.
> 
> You're biased, like a used car salesman, not a scientist.
> 4.5 billion years ago, the surface of earth was molten.
> 33 million years ago, the poles were tropical, not icy.

I am biased to accept the evidence and to go with the science.

>> I also back equal rights... and denounce special entitlements.
>> To you that makes me the enemy, given your extreme focus
>> on special entitlements.
> 
> ...said the thieving junkie, as he robbed his neighbors.

Keep in mind the main differences between liberal and conservative world 
views:

* Liberals: support equal rights and environmental protection, with a 
focus on investing in the future and building a stronger tie between 
hard work / productivity and financial reward.

Additionally, Liberals want evidence-based regulation and oversight to 
help ensure clean air and water, safe food, and human rights. This 
includes following the scientific evidence about climate change and food 
safety, and things like setting levels of lead and other harmful 
substances allowed, and even to wanting to do research to reduce the 
harm of tools such as cars and guns and swimming pools. This is a form 
of control, and conservatives are right to note that. And they are right 
to note that sometimes these measures are taken too far.

* Conservative: support special entitlements for whites, Christians, 
males, heterosexuals, and the wealthy, with a focus on redistributing 
wealth to the very richest in the nation with the idea that this will 
somehow help others.

Conservatives want regulation and oversight based on their own feelings 
and what they believe has historically existed (which is often 
incorrect), or even just based on their own religion. This includes 
controlling which consenting adults can marry each other, what a woman 
can do with her own body, and even insisting the government gets to 
define YOUR gender. They also work to create regulations on voting to 
limit who can vote, for if the people truly get a voice they know their 
ideas are less likely to be accepted. Liberals are right to call 
conservatives out on this also being a form of control and, I think, a 
less defensible one.



-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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  Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-10 23:26 +0000
    Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-11 19:51 +0000
      Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-11 21:48 +0000
        Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-11 22:11 +0000
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                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-14 07:35 -0700
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-13 10:27 -0700
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-13 00:18 +0000
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-09-13 11:06 -0400
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-13 11:37 -0500
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-14 03:34 +0000
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-14 06:58 -0500
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-14 12:49 +0000
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-14 21:17 -0700
                You're biased, like a used car salesman, not a scientist. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-09-15 00:11 -0700
                Re: You're biased, like a used car salesman, not a scientist. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-15 00:50 -0700
                Hillary is a racist FemiNazi; Trump is a disruptor. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-09-15 01:54 -0700
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-14 03:33 +0000
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-14 09:52 -0700
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-13 10:27 -0700
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-15 11:49 -0700
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-12 18:46 +0000
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-12 14:14 -0500
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-12 17:04 -0700
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-13 00:21 +0000
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-09-13 01:12 +0000
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-13 10:29 -0700
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-13 07:06 -0500
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-13 14:59 +0000
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-13 12:58 +0000
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-14 03:29 +0000
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-09-12 14:57 -0400
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-13 00:22 +0000
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-09-13 01:17 +0000
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-09-13 11:17 -0400
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-09-13 16:49 +0000
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-09-14 07:26 -0400
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-14 07:29 -0500
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-09-13 11:13 -0400
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-13 11:39 -0500
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-14 03:35 +0000
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-14 03:34 +0000
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-13 10:29 -0700
                You're a used car salesman, not a scientist. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-09-13 14:11 -0700
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-13 12:53 +0000
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-13 12:50 -0700
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-14 03:23 +0000
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-14 12:31 +0000
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-09-14 14:59 -0400
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-15 15:49 +0000
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-15 09:12 -0700
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-14 07:33 -0700
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-12 18:48 +0000
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-09-12 14:59 -0400
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-13 00:23 +0000
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-09-13 11:20 -0400
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-13 13:20 -0700
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-13 10:30 -0700
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-13 07:42 -0500
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-14 03:18 +0000
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-09-14 07:34 -0400
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-14 09:57 -0700
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-14 07:30 -0700
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-12 17:03 -0700
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-09-13 04:26 -0700
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-09-13 18:17 +0000
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-09-13 18:12 -0700
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-14 03:38 +0000
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-09-14 03:36 -0700
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-14 09:54 -0700
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-09-14 07:30 -0400
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-09-14 06:00 -0700
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-14 09:56 -0700
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-14 12:42 +0000
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-14 21:16 -0700
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-14 09:53 -0700
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-13 21:46 -0700
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-13 12:46 -0700
                You end up robbing the poor. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-09-13 14:19 -0700
                Re: You end up robbing the poor. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-13 21:47 -0700
                If you order it, then _ you pay for it. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-09-13 21:51 -0700
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-13 12:56 +0000
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-13 13:02 -0700
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-14 03:28 +0000
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-14 12:33 +0000
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-14 21:15 -0700
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-14 07:34 -0700

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