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Re: OT: Assad has "given the order"

From Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: OT: Assad has "given the order"
Date 2018-09-15 09:12 -0700
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On 9/15/18 8:49 AM, SilverSlimer wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 14:59:49 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> 
>> SilverSlimer wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>
>>> And no one can reasonably claim that the opinions of dissidents were
>>> not deleted considering how the establishment is behaving in
>>> suppressing
>>
>> The term "dissidents" really does not apply to science, nor should it
>> apply.
>>
>> One scientist may disagree with another scientists hypothesis, but it is
>> up to each scientist to defend his point of view with observations,
>> correct deductions, and sound mathematics.
>>
>> Those scientists that might be called dissidents are mostly (not always,
>> even conventional science can be wrong on occasion) those who push
>> outlier observations, incorrect deductions, or no mathematical support.
>>
>>> conservative opinions in general. Just two days ago, the founder of the
>>> #walkaway movement on Twitter was banned for thirty days on Facebook
>>> for saying the following:
>>>
>>> "I will be on Infowars in 15 minutes."
>>
>> Irrelevant to a discussion of science.
>>
>>> No opinion shared whatsoever. No hate, no racism, no sexism, nothing.
>>
>> Not quite true.  Infowars is well-known to float nasty views or
>> unsupported conspiracty theories.
> 
> Except that the man mentioned that he would _be_ on Infowars, not that he
> agrees or disagrees with whatever Alex Jones, David Knight, Owen Shroyer
> or Roger Stone says. In other words, he did not express any kind of view;
> he simply informed his supporters of his whereabouts. For that, he was
> banned.
> 
>>> If that is enough to silence a person on a social medium which
>>> regularly collaborates with the government against the right, you can
>>> imagine that a scientific opinion which dismisses a leftist agenda will
>>> cause the opinion to be erased from history and the scientist's career
>>> itself to be destroyed.
>>
>> Any scientist worth his/her salt won't give a rat's ass about "leftist
>> vs rightist agendas".
> 
> Agreed. However, the modal here shouldn't be "won't" as much as it should
> be "should." If they are true scientists, their political beliefs will be
> discarded from any results and they routinely aren't.
> 
>>> People will say that I'm exaggerating, but I too was essentially turned
>>> into a second-class citizen at my previous workplace the moment it was
>>> revealed that I don't lean left. These people truly are vicious.
>>
>> Weird.  Where I work, the vast majority of the people would be
>> considered "right".
>>
>> But, rightfully, we do not discuss right-vs-left issues, since they
>> really don't have a place in the work we do.
> 
> Agreed, but they also shouldn't have a place at Google, Apple and the
> other companies which punish employees from the right. Even Jack Dorsey
> of Twitter had to admit that the conservatives in his workplace are
> afraid of speaking because of the consequences of "wrongthink."
> 
> I, identifying myself as a conservative (even though I'm truly centrist),
> was also treated _very_ differently in the workplace. It was so bad that
> I had to leave.
> 

By "wrongthink" do you mean open bigotry?

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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OT: Assad has "given the order" RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 17:18 +0000
  Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 10:34 -0700
  Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-10 23:26 +0000
    Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-11 19:51 +0000
      Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-11 21:48 +0000
        Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-11 22:11 +0000
          Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-12 00:29 +0000
            Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-11 17:48 -0700
            Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-12 13:20 +0000
              Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-12 08:38 -0500
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-09-12 11:05 -0400
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-12 08:39 -0700
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-12 18:49 +0000
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-09-12 14:52 -0400
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-12 14:28 -0500
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-13 00:19 +0000
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-09-13 11:00 -0400
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-14 03:32 +0000
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-14 07:35 -0700
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-13 10:27 -0700
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-13 00:18 +0000
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-09-13 11:06 -0400
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-13 11:37 -0500
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-14 03:34 +0000
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-14 06:58 -0500
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-14 12:49 +0000
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-14 21:17 -0700
                You're biased, like a used car salesman, not a scientist. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-09-15 00:11 -0700
                Re: You're biased, like a used car salesman, not a scientist. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-15 00:50 -0700
                Hillary is a racist FemiNazi; Trump is a disruptor. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-09-15 01:54 -0700
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-14 03:33 +0000
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-14 09:52 -0700
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-13 10:27 -0700
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-15 11:49 -0700
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-12 18:46 +0000
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-12 14:14 -0500
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-12 17:04 -0700
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-13 00:21 +0000
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-09-13 01:12 +0000
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-13 10:29 -0700
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-13 07:06 -0500
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-13 14:59 +0000
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-13 12:58 +0000
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-14 03:29 +0000
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-09-12 14:57 -0400
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-13 00:22 +0000
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-09-13 01:17 +0000
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-09-13 11:17 -0400
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-09-13 16:49 +0000
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-09-14 07:26 -0400
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-14 07:29 -0500
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-09-13 11:13 -0400
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-13 11:39 -0500
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-14 03:35 +0000
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-14 03:34 +0000
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-13 10:29 -0700
                You're a used car salesman, not a scientist. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-09-13 14:11 -0700
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-13 12:53 +0000
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-13 12:50 -0700
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-14 03:23 +0000
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-14 12:31 +0000
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-09-14 14:59 -0400
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-15 15:49 +0000
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-15 09:12 -0700
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-14 07:33 -0700
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-12 18:48 +0000
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-09-12 14:59 -0400
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-13 00:23 +0000
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-09-13 11:20 -0400
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-13 13:20 -0700
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-13 10:30 -0700
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-13 07:42 -0500
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-14 03:18 +0000
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-09-14 07:34 -0400
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-14 09:57 -0700
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-14 07:30 -0700
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-12 17:03 -0700
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-09-13 04:26 -0700
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-09-13 18:17 +0000
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-09-13 18:12 -0700
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-14 03:38 +0000
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-09-14 03:36 -0700
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-14 09:54 -0700
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-09-14 07:30 -0400
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-09-14 06:00 -0700
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-14 09:56 -0700
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-14 12:42 +0000
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-14 21:16 -0700
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-14 09:53 -0700
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-13 21:46 -0700
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-13 12:46 -0700
                You end up robbing the poor. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-09-13 14:19 -0700
                Re: You end up robbing the poor. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-13 21:47 -0700
                If you order it, then _ you pay for it. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-09-13 21:51 -0700
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-13 12:56 +0000
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-13 13:02 -0700
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-14 03:28 +0000
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-14 12:33 +0000
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-14 21:15 -0700
                Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-14 07:34 -0700

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