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Re: Why haven't we had another scientific revolution in physics yet? Hasn't it been long enough since general relativity and quantum mechanics? - Quora

From Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Why haven't we had another scientific revolution in physics yet? Hasn't it been long enough since general relativity and quantum mechanics? - Quora
Date 2018-08-09 22:25 +0200
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Am 09.08.2018 um 18:21 schrieb David (Kronos Prime) Fuller:
> Thomas Heger escrito
> 
> Am 08.08.2018 um 20:53 schrieb David (Kronos Prime) Fuller:
>> kenseto escrito
>>
>> The following questions were asked in Quora:
>> Why haven't we had another scientific revolution in physics yet? Hasn't it been long enough since general relativity and quantum mechanics?
>>
>> Because the Mainstream is clinging to “Their Aether-less Model” like a Baby on its Momma’s Teat.
>>
>> There is No where to go while hanging on to that anchor.
>>
> 
> Well, actually I think, that 'aether' is not such a good idea, because it is not relativistic at all.
> 
> Hello Thomas
> 
> Can you explain your reasoning as to why an Aether Theory or an Ideal fluid solution would be non-Relativistic.
> 
> I bet Koobee Wublee would like to know as well
> 

Spacetime seems to behave in a way like a 'perfect fluid'.

But 'fluid' is in most people's mind mater - stuff like e.g. water.

Water belongs to the category 'matter' and matter is what I wanted to 
describe as internal structure of spacetime.

'matter' should be 'timelike stable patterns'.

To be consistent with relativity and the concept of spacetime (in the 
way as used by Hermann Minkowski), the axis of time should be possible 
to rotate about a certain angle. With such a rotation the space 
associated with that matter should disappear, while another space 
appears and with it other matter.

So spacetime cannot be matter, hence not even an aether.

Fluids could be modeled with complex numbers very well, like spacetime.

So spacetime behaves somehow like fluids behave, but not because it is a 
fluid, but because it is based on complex numbers (actually complex four 
vectors).

TH

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