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Re: I don't agree with snit however...

From Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: I don't agree with snit however...
Date 2018-08-02 12:40 -0700
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On 8/2/18 12:26 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On Thursday, August 2, 2018 at 12:27:58 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
>> On 8/2/18 10:39 AM, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>> On Thursday, August 2, 2018 at 10:46:35 AM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
>>>> On 8/2/18 8:13 AM, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>>> ...
>>>>>> In the US, a higher percentage of Muslims believe in equal rights for gays
>>>>>> to marry than do Christians.
>>>>>
>>>>> Did the poll ask if U.S. Muslims believe in equal rights for gay *Muslims*?
>>>>
>>>> I do not believe any asked anyone about people in or out of their own
>>>> religion.
>>>
>>> I'm betting they didn't.
>>
>> Nor did they ask them about quesadillas or many other things.
> 
> Trust me, I got it already, you didn't comprehend what you'd read... again.
> 
>> Ah, you are splitting hairs again. Got it.
> 
> Hey, I'm just doing what you regularly do ;)
> 
>>>> So this is backing what I am noting
>>>
>>> In your opinion; notably, these surveys don't address my point at all.
>>
>> The point you made AFTER I brought up the survey?
> 
> Nah, the one you missed the first time, when you responded with the
> non-sequitur of "quesadillas".
> 
>> If there was a Muslim pushing special entitlements
> 
> We're talking about groups here, not individuals.
> 
>>> So why do Christians get so much more airtime in the 'Snit show'?
>>
>> I do not even know what show you mean.
> 
> LOL!
> 
>>> How do you explain that? You won't, you'll either deny it, ignore it
>>> or attempt table-turning... or some other red herring.
>>
>> Nope: I will not the obvious, which you miss: there are no Muslims here
>> attacking Christians...
> 
> Is this your way of showing readers you're not a Muslim? And even if true,
> what has that to do with your argument?
>   
>> No, that is not even close to what I am saying. And had you not snipped
>> half of what I said maybe you would have understood it better.
> 
> There is nothing in the crap I snipped that even addressed it.
> 
>>>>> 2 - What's the likelihood of a Muslim lying about this issue in a poll?
>>>>
>>>> I do not see any reason to think it is higher than with other groups.
>>>
>>> Really?! In the U.S., where they are well aware there are things like
>>> watch lists and Muslims are scrutinized to the extent they are?
>>
>> You are not put on a watch list for wanting to deny gays equal rights,
> 
> And every Muslim that comes into the U.S. is given a little booklet
> that explains all of these kinds of things, too <eyeroll>.
> 
>> but the bigotry against Muslims might lead to a higher level of caution
>> in such things. I can see that... good point.
> 
> It's a good point that you originally overlooked.
> 
>>>> To the extent that it happens with any group I would expect the lies to
>>>> be in the direction their religion pushes.
>>>
>>> Self preservation and/or wishing to appear like you're fitting in wouldn't be
>>> strong motivation to mislead in a survey in your mind?
>>
>> As I said, the bigotry toward Muslims in the US, which Christians face
>> FAR less of, is a good point. Thanks.
> 
> While you're patting yourself on the back for finally understanding one of my
> points, why don't you address the reality of what it may mean WRT responses.
>   
>>>> So it is likely more members of
>>>> conservative Muslim groups (and conservative Christian groups) accept
>>>> equal rights but are afraid to say it, even on a poll. But this is just
>>>> a guess.
>>>
>>> Given the landscape, my guess is that they would be far more concerned about
>>> what I just mentioned.
>>
>> I can see it as a confounding factor... not sure how much of an impact
>> but it is a good thing to note.
> 
> So you feel the impact is negligible. Is it as negligible as limiting the pool to
> U.S. Muslims the way you have here (and elsewhere, when you think it suits
> your 'argument')?
> 
>>>>> Of course, all of this is irrelevant as the percentage of Muslims who
>>>>> are currently living in the U.S. in down in the noise.
>>>>>
>>>>> (cue up Snit labeling me a 'bigot' for asking obvious questions that stymie his agenda)
>>>>
>>>> What do you think is bigoted about your questions? I think they were reasonable ones... you sound like you have a very guilty conscience. And, given your recent comments, and some older ones, you have it with very good reason.
>>>
>>> The better question is: Why didn't you do what you usually do, what we've
>>> all seen you do over and over?
>>
>> I did do what I usually do... called out your BS when you spewed it, but
>> also noted and thanked you when you actually made a reasoned point.
> 
> I didn't spew any BS and the point I made is one you seem to believe has
> little, to no, impact... and that belief of yours is based on... well, nothing.
> 
>> Remember: your delusions of what I do are not indicative of what I
>> REALLY do.
> 
> Everyone knows what you "REALLY do", that's *why* they avoid you to
> the extent they do. You should be paying me ;)
> 

When I saw you spewing insults and playing victim I barely skimmed. Did 
you make, among all that BS, any actual point?


-- 
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cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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    Re: I don't agree with snit however... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-08-01 08:57 -0700
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              Re: I don't agree with snit however... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-08-02 13:40 +0000
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              Re: I don't agree with snit however... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-08-02 13:40 +0000
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                Re: I don't agree with snit however... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-08-02 12:40 -0700
                Re: I don't agree with snit however... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-08-02 12:44 -0700
                Re: I don't agree with snit however... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-08-02 13:03 -0700
                Re: I don't agree with snit however... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-08-02 13:13 -0700
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                Re: I don't agree with snit however... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-08-02 13:50 -0700
                Re: I don't agree with snit however... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-08-02 14:12 -0700
                Re: I don't agree with snit however... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-08-02 14:26 -0700
                Re: I don't agree with snit however... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-08-02 17:45 -0700
                Re: I don't agree with snit however... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-08-03 08:30 -0700
                Re: I don't agree with snit however... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-08-03 14:42 -0700
                Re: I don't agree with snit however... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-08-03 16:06 -0700
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                Re: I don't agree with snit however... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-08-03 17:09 -0700
                Re: I don't agree with snit however... SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-08-04 17:56 +0000
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                Re: I don't agree with snit however... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-08-03 17:08 -0700
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    Re: I don't agree with snit however... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-08-01 12:20 -0700
      Re: I don't agree with snit however... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-08-01 12:38 -0700
    Re: I don't agree with snit however... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-08-01 12:41 -0700
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