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Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT?

From Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT?
Date 2018-07-22 23:33 +0200
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Am 22.07.2018 um 22:42 schrieb Thomas Heger:
> Am 22.07.2018 um 15:53 schrieb Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn:
> ...
>>>>>>> space (the universe) has a time-component, what Euclidean space 
>>>>>>> has not.
>>>>>> That is not the reason, let a lone the main reason.  You have no 
>>>>>> clue what
>>>>>> “Euclidean space” means.
>>>>> My assumption is, that what we call 'universe' is actually our own 
>>>>> past
>>>>> light-cone.
>>>> Argumentum ad nauseam.  This assumption has already been disproved.
>>>
>>> When and by whom?
>>
>> You feign amnesia now?  It was about a month ago, in de.sci.physik, I and
>> others.
> 
> No, you have not.
> 
> Instead you say you did, what you didn't (ad nauseam...).
> 


Actually I have found your article in de.sci.physik from 29.4.

You had tried to proof mathematically, that my assumption is wrong and 
based your arguments on SRT.

But I have written, that I think SRT is wrong.

Instead I wanted to use multiple timelines (and directions).

Then any observer is somewhere and would utilize the local time.

So in a global view the picture is very different than yours (or that of 
SRT).

And therefore I think, the universe does not behave in the way that 
Minkowski thought, because Minkowski space is not a mathematical 
construct to handle SRT with one time-dimension plus Euclidean space, 
but a 'real thing'.

Instead of only one axis of time any of the four dimensions could 
function as time and then the remaining dimensions are, what we call 
'space'.

I also wanted to replace Tensor algebra by complex-four vectors and 
geometric algebra.

Now you try to disprove this assumption by referring to theories, which 
I regard as wrong.

This is even than wrong, if you prove it mathematically, since the 
question is not answered, whether or not the used axioms are valid.

I said no and you said yes.

But 'I say so' is not a valid argument.

In case you want to know, how I came to my conclusions, I can provide 
another time the link to my 'book':

https://docs.google.com/present/view?id=dd8jz2tx_3gfzvqgd6


TH

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                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-19 12:54 +0000
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-19 06:51 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-19 15:34 +0000
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-19 10:21 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-07-17 09:45 -0400
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-17 13:40 -0700
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                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-17 14:43 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-17 15:13 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-18 06:16 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 07:38 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-18 14:00 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 14:21 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-19 05:53 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-19 07:10 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-19 10:30 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-19 10:54 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-19 12:00 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-19 12:12 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-19 12:22 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-20 06:02 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-19 13:27 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-19 16:40 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-20 03:48 +0000
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-19 13:14 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-19 13:46 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-19 14:18 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-20 07:32 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-20 15:21 +0000
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-19 14:05 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-20 06:06 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-19 11:19 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-19 11:37 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-19 11:55 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-07-19 15:26 -0400
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-07-17 17:15 -0400
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-18 06:57 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-16 20:47 +0000
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-17 05:34 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-17 12:59 +0000
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-17 06:18 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-17 15:20 +0000
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-17 13:47 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-17 21:01 +0000
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-17 14:15 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-07-17 17:23 -0400
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-17 21:59 +0000
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-18 06:27 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 14:12 +0000
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                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-14 07:23 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-07-14 10:50 -0400
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-15 22:45 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-15 13:30 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-16 07:45 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-16 16:24 +0000
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-16 12:32 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-16 20:47 +0000
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-17 05:37 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-17 12:59 +0000
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-17 06:20 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-07-17 09:51 -0400
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-17 15:20 +0000
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-16 15:01 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-17 05:43 -0700
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                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-12 18:53 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-14 09:31 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-14 15:28 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-14 16:56 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-14 17:42 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-14 18:06 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-14 13:14 -0700
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                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-15 13:55 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-16 00:05 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-15 13:34 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-15 18:17 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-15 21:05 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-15 21:07 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-16 17:57 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-17 20:51 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-17 11:56 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-17 21:34 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-17 13:45 -0700
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                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-18 13:18 -0700
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                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-19 09:55 -0700
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                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-20 09:50 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-20 21:16 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-21 20:13 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-21 20:54 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-22 14:17 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-22 15:53 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-22 22:42 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-22 23:33 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-23 00:30 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-24 21:02 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-25 22:47 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-23 00:17 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-24 21:28 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-07 22:40 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-08-13 21:01 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-16 22:52 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-17 14:19 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-18 08:53 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-18 19:29 +0200
              Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-12 08:48 -0700
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