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Re: Possibly good?

From Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: Possibly good?
Date 2018-04-28 08:52 -0700
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On 4/28/18 8:01 AM, a.m wrote:
> On Fri, 27 Apr 2018 17:28:42 -0700, Snit
> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 4/27/18 3:03 PM, F. Russell wrote:
>>> On Fri, 27 Apr 2018 11:03:28 -0500, chrisv wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> In another month, the EU's General Data Protection Regulation becomes
>>>> enforceable.  It provides strict requirements
>>>>
>>>
>>> I don't know that law so I cannot comment.
>>>
>>> But I do know that both European _and_ American politics is
>>> REACTIVE rather than PROACTIVE.  The politicians should see
>>> these things coming far in advance but they never do.  Consequently
>>> most laws are unfortunately always "too little and too late."
>>
>> Climate change is a great examples of this.
> 
> The same scientists who claimed that we'd all be underwater right now
> are now admitting that they were wrong.

Who said we would be under water? The oceans HAVE risen. The predictions 
have been amazingly accurate.

> <https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/950748/climate-change-scientists-impact-not-as-bad-on-planet>

You hand-picked one study. One. In the past you have hand-picked some 
others. But you are hand-picking and ignoring the overall picture... the 
overall science. You are seeking confirmation bias and finding it. That 
is NOT how you should look at science. That is not using the best data 
we have and understanding the context.

Let's get some context:

<https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capital-weather-gang/wp/2014/09/26/study-lowers-range-for-future-global-warming-but-does-it-matter>
OR <https://goo.gl/C75akG>
     -----
     Doubling the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere won’t
     produce as much global warming as some previous estimates, says a
     new study. However, scientists don’t universally accept this result
     nor do they agree about whether it makes much difference about what
     we should do about it.
     -----

And even the study itself finds that the climate IS changing and WILL 
continue to change. And even if the study is correct:
     -----
     "A 25 per cent reduction in TCR would mean the changes we expect
     between now and 2050 might take until the early 2060s instead... So,
     even if correct, it is hardly a game-changer," Allen told the blog
     Carbon Brief.
     -----

Hardly a big difference.

As far as you picking and choosing, here is another recent study (or 
article, from a more scientific source, which talks about the study):

<https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/we-just-breached-the-410-ppm-threshold-for-co2/> 
OR <https://goo.gl/nZkZmM>
     -----
     The world just passed another round-numbered climate milestone.
     Scientists predicted it would happen this year and lo and behold, it
     has.
     ...
     Earlier this year, U.K. Met Office scientists issued their
     first-ever carbon dioxide forecast. They projected carbon dioxide
     could reach 410 ppm in March and almost certainly would by April.
     Their forecast has been borne out with Tuesday's daily record. They
     project that the monthly average will peak near 407 ppm in May,
     setting a monthly record.

     Carbon dioxide concentrations have skyrocketed over the past two
     years due to in part to natural factors like El Nino causing more of
     it to end up in the atmosphere. But it's mostly driven by the record
     amounts of carbon dioxide humans are creating by burning fossil
     fuels.
     -----

> Face it, your liberal media lied to you _again_ because that's all
> they ever do. Luckily for them, they'll always find someone dumb
> enough to believe them.

Why are you bringing up the media? What you are doing is showing deep 
ignorance about basic science and then presenting the idea that those 
who do understand the science must be getting manipulated by the 
"liberal media"... meaning Huffington Post and the like I suppose? Such 
amazing ignorance from you.


-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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Possibly good? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-04-26 11:49 -0700
  Re: Possibly good? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-26 12:28 -0700
  Re: Possibly good? "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-04-26 22:24 +0000
    Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-26 15:38 -0700
      Re: Possibly good? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-26 21:47 -0700
    Re: Possibly good? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-26 15:51 -0700
      Re: Possibly good? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-27 00:39 -0700
  Re: Possibly good? "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-04-26 23:32 +0000
    Re: Possibly good? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-27 03:45 -0700
  Re: Possibly good? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-27 11:03 -0500
    Re: Possibly good? "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-04-27 22:03 +0000
      Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-27 17:28 -0700
        Re: Possibly good? a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-28 11:01 -0400
          Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 08:52 -0700
            Re: Possibly good? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-28 16:01 +0000
              Re: Possibly good? a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-28 12:43 -0400
                Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 09:56 -0700
              Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 09:48 -0700
                Re: Possibly good? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-28 19:08 +0000
                Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 13:00 -0700
                Re: Possibly good? a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-28 16:23 -0400
                Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 13:36 -0700
                Re: Possibly good? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-28 20:59 +0000
                Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 14:11 -0700
                Re: Possibly good? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-28 22:33 +0000
                Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 15:35 -0700
                Re: Possibly good? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-28 22:56 +0000
                Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 16:06 -0700
                Re: Possibly good? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-28 23:21 +0000
                Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 16:42 -0700
                Re: Possibly good? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-29 14:27 +0000
                Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-29 10:26 -0700
                Re: Possibly good? Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-29 19:27 -0400
                Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-29 16:54 -0700
                Re: Possibly good? Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-28 19:41 -0400
                Re: Possibly good? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-28 20:56 +0000
                Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 14:07 -0700
                Re: Possibly good? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-28 22:06 +0000
                Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 15:30 -0700
                Re: Possibly good? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-28 22:43 +0000
                Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 16:07 -0700
                Re: Possibly good? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-28 23:17 +0000
                Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 16:42 -0700
                Re: Possibly good? Brick <brick@mortar.invalid> - 2018-04-29 00:58 +0000
                Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 18:22 -0700
                Re: Possibly good? Brick <brick@mortar.invalid> - 2018-04-29 01:37 +0000
                Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 18:44 -0700
                Re: Possibly good? Brick <brick@mortar.invalid> - 2018-04-29 01:53 +0000
                Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 19:06 -0700
                Re: Possibly good? Brick <brick@mortar.invalid> - 2018-04-29 02:16 +0000
                Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 19:30 -0700
                Re: Possibly good? Brick <brick@mortar.invalid> - 2018-04-29 02:44 +0000
                Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 19:46 -0700
                Re: Possibly good? Brick <brick@mortar.invalid> - 2018-04-29 02:54 +0000
                Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 20:00 -0700
                Re: Possibly good? Brick <brick@mortar.invalid> - 2018-04-29 03:03 +0000
                Our planet is greener now, vs. 100 years ago. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-04-29 04:44 -0700
                Re: Our planet is greener now, vs. 100 years ago. Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-29 05:13 -0700
                Re: Our planet is greener now, vs. 100 years ago. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-29 19:21 -0400
                Re: Our planet is greener now, vs. 100 years ago. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-29 16:54 -0700
                Re: Possibly good? Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-28 17:11 -0400
                Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 14:18 -0700
              Re: Possibly good? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-04-29 09:42 -0400
                Re: Possibly good? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-29 14:21 +0000
                Re: Possibly good? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-29 07:34 -0700
                Re: Possibly good? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-04-29 10:43 -0400
                Re: Possibly good? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-29 15:28 +0000
                Re: Possibly good? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-04-29 13:13 -0400
                Re: Possibly good? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-29 17:37 +0000
                Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-29 10:44 -0700
                Re: Possibly good? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-30 08:15 -0500
                Re: Possibly good? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-30 06:36 -0700
                Re: Possibly good? "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-04-29 15:29 +0000
                Re: Possibly good? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-29 15:43 +0000
                Re: Possibly good? "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-04-29 16:05 +0000
                Re: Possibly good? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-29 16:44 +0000
                Re: Possibly good? "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-04-29 17:40 +0000
                Re: Possibly good? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-29 17:58 +0000
                Re: Possibly good? "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-04-29 19:24 +0000
                Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-29 12:43 -0700
                Re: Possibly good? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-29 20:26 +0000
                Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-29 13:46 -0700
                Re: Possibly good? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-29 20:24 +0000
                Re: Possibly good? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-29 14:05 -0700
                Re: Possibly good? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-29 09:23 -0700
            Re: Possibly good? a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-28 12:27 -0400
          Re: Possibly good? RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-04-28 17:24 +0000
            Re: Possibly good? a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-28 13:44 -0400
              Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 10:54 -0700
            Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 10:56 -0700
            Re: Possibly good? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2018-04-28 21:01 +0200
              Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 12:59 -0700
                Re: Possibly good? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-28 20:51 +0000
                Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 13:57 -0700
                Re: Possibly good? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-28 21:04 +0000
                Re: Possibly good? Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-28 17:13 -0400
                Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 14:17 -0700
                Re: Possibly good? RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-05-01 03:37 +0000
                Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-30 20:41 -0700
                Re: Possibly good? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-01 01:21 -0700
                Re: Possibly good? Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-28 17:09 -0400
                Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 14:12 -0700
                Re: Possibly good? RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-05-01 03:36 +0000
                Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-30 20:40 -0700
                Re: Possibly good? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2018-05-01 09:26 +0200
              Re: Possibly good? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-28 23:13 -0700
              Re: Possibly good? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-30 08:19 -0500
                Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-30 08:04 -0700
                Re: Possibly good? RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-05-01 03:38 +0000
                Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-30 20:42 -0700
                Re: Possibly good? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2018-05-01 09:24 +0200
                Re: Possibly good? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-05-01 05:34 -0400
                Re: Possibly good? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-01 02:53 -0700
              Re: Possibly good? RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-05-01 03:34 +0000
                Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-30 20:39 -0700
                Re: Possibly good? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2018-05-01 09:20 +0200
                Re: Possibly good? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-05-01 05:37 -0400
                Re: Possibly good? Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-01 11:11 -0400
                Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-01 15:17 +0000
                Re: Possibly good? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-05-01 19:47 -0400
          Re: Possibly good? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-04-29 09:40 -0400
            Re: Possibly good? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-29 07:03 -0700
            Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-29 10:26 -0700
            Re: Possibly good? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-30 08:03 -0500
              Re: Possibly good? William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2018-04-30 14:14 +0100
              Re: Possibly good? RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-05-01 03:44 +0000
                Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-01 04:43 +0000
                Re: Possibly good? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-01 05:28 +0000
                Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-01 05:36 +0000
                Re: Possibly good? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-01 06:09 +0000
                Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-01 07:12 -0700
                Re: Possibly good? Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-05-01 14:52 +0000
                Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-01 14:56 +0000
                Re: Possibly good? Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-05-01 15:01 +0000
                Re: Possibly good? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-01 07:01 -0500
                Re: Possibly good? Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-01 11:21 -0400
                Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-01 08:31 -0700
                Re: Possibly good? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-05-01 19:41 -0400
      Re: Possibly good? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-27 18:29 -0700

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