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| From | Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.c |
| Subject | Re: Dropping C |
| Date | 2018-03-21 08:01 +1300 |
| Message-ID | <fhd448Fa3iaU2@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
| References | (15 earlier) <qGVrC.43909$Oy5.10390@fx11.am4> <fhbkbmF5omlU3@mid.individual.net> <0P5sC.116875$my2.7763@fx16.am4> <fhd2c4Fa3iaU1@mid.individual.net> <_KcsC.148367$Mv4.4553@fx37.am4> |
On 03/21/2018 07:51 AM, bartc wrote: > On 20/03/2018 18:31, Ian Collins wrote: >> On 03/20/2018 11:58 PM, bartc wrote: >>> On 20/03/2018 05:26, Ian Collins wrote: >>>> On 03/20/2018 10:09 AM, bartc wrote: >>>>> On 19/03/2018 20:38, Scott Lurndal wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>> I obviously mean any editor that just edits text and knows nothing >>>>>>> about >>>>>>> ctags or cscopes or databases or identifiers. >>>>>> >>>>>> Well, leaving aside how dumb that is.... >>>>> >>>>> I understand. You guys are obviously using a language so fantastically >>>>> advanced that a mere 'editor' just won't do! >>>> >>>> vi is a "mere editor". >>> >>> One that understands ctags and cscopes? Then it's not a mere editor. And >>> if it doesn't, then it would be a dumb way of editing C source, >>> according to Scott. >>> >>>> Can you use notepad over a serial connection? >>> >>> In what manner? What is at either end of the serial connection? And why >>> is it relevant to editing programming source code? >> >> Two recent real examples: updating code on client systems that are >> accessed through a tty port over a serial to Ethernet converter. Fixing >> code that prevented a system starting its networking services on startup. > > I'm not sure why that needs to be a concern of an editor; why can't you > use other services to transfer the file to your machine than transfer it > back again? Then you can use ANY editor of any capabilities. It isn't a concern of an editor, it's a use for an editor. Copying files back and forth over a serial connection is a very inefficient way of working compared to using a simple editor locally. >>> When I run my own editor I can use it on anything that is accessible via >>> my file system, or that has been made accessible (eg. run ftp first). I >>> don't know what point you're trying to make other than some apparent >>> superiority of vi over Notepad. >> >> Simple editors don't need a GUI. > > You don't need an advanced GUI but you do need a visual representation > of the file you're working on. That can be with a console display (ie. > char-based not pixel-based). A console display is exactly what a simple editor such as vi uses. A GUI layer is a whole extra level of complexity many systems neither have nor need. -- Ian.
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Dropping C bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-03-17 16:07 +0000
Re: Dropping C "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2018-03-18 00:41 +0800
Re: Dropping C Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2018-03-17 19:54 -0400
Re: Dropping C Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-18 13:19 +1300
Re: Dropping C Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-03-18 02:42 -0700
Re: Dropping C bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-03-18 01:28 +0000
Re: Dropping C Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2018-03-17 21:41 -0400
Re: Dropping C bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-03-18 11:25 +0000
Re: Dropping C Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-03-18 04:33 -0700
Re: Dropping C jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2018-03-19 00:05 +0100
Re: Dropping C bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-03-19 00:24 +0000
Re: Dropping C Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2018-03-18 21:15 -0400
Re: Dropping C Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-03-18 19:00 -0700
Re: Dropping C David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-03-19 14:04 +0100
Re: Dropping C Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-03-19 06:08 -0700
Re: Dropping C supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-03-19 14:29 -0700
Re: Dropping C Noob <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-03-19 14:34 +0100
Re: Dropping C Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-03-19 06:39 -0700
Re: Dropping C GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2018-03-19 15:17 +0100
Re: Dropping C bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-03-19 15:03 +0000
Re: Dropping C scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-03-19 15:36 +0000
Re: Dropping C bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-03-19 17:01 +0000
Re: Dropping C Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2018-03-19 12:14 -0600
Re: Dropping C bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-03-19 19:15 +0000
Re: Dropping C Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-20 08:20 +1300
Re: Dropping C bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-03-19 20:47 +0000
Re: Dropping C Lowell Gilbert <lgusenet@be-well.ilk.org> - 2018-03-19 18:00 -0400
Re: Dropping C bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-03-19 22:17 +0000
Re: Dropping C Reinhardt Behm <rbehm@hushmail.com> - 2018-03-20 09:34 +0800
Re: Dropping C jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2018-03-21 07:54 +0100
Re: Dropping C Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-21 04:10 -0500
Re: Dropping C bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-03-21 11:08 +0000
Re: Dropping C bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-03-21 11:18 +0000
Re: Dropping C Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-03-21 05:28 -0700
Re: Dropping C Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-03-21 12:13 +0000
Re: Dropping C bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-03-21 12:26 +0000
Re: Dropping C Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-03-21 15:55 +0000
Re: Dropping C jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2018-03-21 20:15 +0100
Re: Dropping C Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-03-21 12:45 -0700
Re: Dropping C supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-03-21 13:46 -0700
Killfiles (Was: Dropping C) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2018-03-21 21:42 +0000
Re: Killfiles (Was: Dropping C) Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-03-22 04:22 -0700
Re: Dropping C Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-03-21 20:21 +0000
Re: Dropping C Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-03-21 22:21 -0700
Re: Dropping C Reinhardt Behm <rbehm@hushmail.com> - 2018-03-20 09:32 +0800
Re: Dropping C Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-21 10:01 +1300
Re: Dropping C luser droog <luser.droog@gmail.com> - 2018-03-20 16:01 -0700
Re: Dropping C Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2018-03-19 13:41 -0600
Re: Dropping C luser droog <luser.droog@gmail.com> - 2018-03-19 12:52 -0700
Re: Dropping C Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> - 2018-03-19 20:15 +0000
Re: Dropping C scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-03-19 20:38 +0000
Re: Dropping C GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2018-03-19 22:00 +0100
Re: Dropping C Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> - 2018-03-20 01:45 +0000
Re: Dropping C GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2018-03-20 03:05 +0100
Re: Dropping C bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-03-19 21:09 +0000
Re: Dropping C Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-20 18:26 +1300
Re: Dropping C bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-03-20 10:58 +0000
Re: Dropping C David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-03-20 14:22 +0100
Re: Dropping C scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-03-20 13:58 +0000
Re: Dropping C David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-03-20 17:14 +0100
Re: Dropping C bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-03-20 16:31 +0000
Re: Dropping C scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-03-20 17:14 +0000
Re: Dropping C Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-21 07:31 +1300
Re: Dropping C bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-03-20 18:51 +0000
Re: Dropping C Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-21 08:01 +1300
Re: Dropping C scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-03-20 19:03 +0000
Re: Dropping C bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-03-20 19:22 +0000
Re: Dropping C Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-21 08:25 +1300
Re: Dropping C bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-03-20 19:33 +0000
Re: Dropping C Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-21 09:34 +1300
Re: Dropping C scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-03-20 19:49 +0000
Re: Dropping C David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-03-21 11:27 +0100
Re: Dropping C Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> - 2018-03-20 01:27 +0000
Re: Dropping C GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2018-03-19 17:03 +0100
Re: Dropping C David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-03-19 23:13 +0100
Re: Dropping C GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2018-03-20 00:23 +0100
Re: Dropping C Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> - 2018-03-20 00:55 +0000
Re: Dropping C GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2018-03-20 02:29 +0100
Re: Dropping C Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> - 2018-03-20 02:04 +0000
Re: Dropping C GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2018-03-20 03:31 +0100
Re: Dropping C jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2018-03-21 20:18 +0100
Re: Dropping C GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2018-03-21 21:32 +0100
Re: Dropping C scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-03-21 20:52 +0000
Re: Dropping C supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-03-21 14:38 -0700
Re: Dropping C GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2018-03-21 23:08 +0100
Re: Dropping C Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2018-03-22 13:37 +0000
Re: Dropping C GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2018-03-22 15:41 +0100
Re: Dropping C bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-03-22 14:58 +0000
Re: Dropping C GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2018-03-22 17:37 +0100
Re: Dropping C Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-03-22 17:09 +0000
Re: Dropping C GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2018-03-22 18:27 +0100
Re: Dropping C Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-03-22 17:35 +0000
Re: Dropping C GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2018-03-22 18:46 +0100
Re: Dropping C Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-03-22 18:22 +0000
Re: Dropping C GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2018-03-22 19:38 +0100
Re: Dropping C jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2018-03-22 12:19 -0700
Re: Dropping C Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-03-22 20:23 +0000
Re: Dropping C Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 06:10 -0700
Re: Dropping C David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-03-23 14:54 +0100
Re: Dropping C GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 16:55 +0100
Re: Dropping C David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-03-23 17:46 +0100
Re: Dropping C GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2018-03-24 02:50 +0100
Re: Dropping C GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2018-03-24 02:54 +0100
Re: Dropping C scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-03-22 16:43 +0000
Re: Dropping C Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-03-22 10:39 -0700
Re: Dropping C Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-22 11:47 -0500
Re: Dropping C Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-03-24 00:59 -0700
Re: Dropping C bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-03-19 15:07 +0000
Re: Dropping C scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-03-19 15:37 +0000
Re: Dropping C bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-03-19 17:16 +0000
Re: Dropping C Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-03-19 20:30 +0000
Re: Dropping C bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-03-19 21:24 +0000
Re: Dropping C Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-03-19 23:06 +0000
Re: Dropping C Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2018-03-20 14:04 +0000
Re: Dropping C supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-03-19 15:32 -0700
Re: Dropping C Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-19 19:03 -0500
Re: Dropping C Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> - 2018-03-20 02:13 +0000
Re: Dropping C David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-03-20 14:25 +0100
Re: Dropping C jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2018-03-21 18:36 +0100
Re: Dropping C David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-03-19 23:33 +0100
Re: Dropping C supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-03-19 16:34 -0700
Re: Dropping C asetofsymbols@gmail.com - 2018-03-20 00:58 -0700
Re: Dropping C Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-03-20 01:10 -0700
Re: Dropping C Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-19 14:25 +1300
Re: Dropping C bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-03-21 12:19 +0000
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