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| From | Attila <<prochoice@here.now> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.atheism, sci.physics, sci.physics.relativity |
| Subject | Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? |
| Message-ID | <f52vjbdf75a0mko10nlso67pib765utv70@4ax.com> (permalink) |
| References | (7 earlier) <573CC67C.23DA@ix.netcom.com> <2hipjb1go7mhf37fvkh0ggqikrih270mhl@4ax.com> <573D0753.29F5@ix.netcom.com> <bv5qjbhabbkir93e0rp1849uj043plros9@4ax.com> <573F5E7F.6A9A@ix.netcom.com> |
| Organization | UsenetServer - www.usenetserver.com |
| Date | 2016-05-20 17:59 -0400 |
Cross-posted to 3 groups.
On Fri, 20 May 2016 11:59:11 -0700, The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <573F5E7F.6A9A@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >Attila < wrote: >> >> On Wed, 18 May 2016 17:22:43 -0700, The Starmaker >> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id >> <573D0753.29F5@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >> >> >Attila < wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wed, 18 May 2016 12:46:04 -0700, The Starmaker >> >> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id >> >> <573CC67C.23DA@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >The Starmaker wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> benj wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> > On 05/18/2016 02:21 AM, The Starmaker wrote: >> >> >> > > Mitchell Holman wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in >> >> >> > >> news:1i0mjbl1llvtuvpoe7njfrtf3rv7tj9jgc@4ax.com: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> > >>> If you can't see it, you don't want to. Without creation, nothing >> >> >> > >>> would exist. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> Without a creation your god would not exist. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> Who created your creator? >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > 'In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.' >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > (all your questions are answered in that one sentence) >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > So, 'In the beginning..' >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > https://www.google.com/#q=define+beginning >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > 1. >> >> >> > > the point in time or space at which something starts. >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > '...God created..' >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > There was no creation before God..so no one created God since creation did not exist before God.. >> >> >> > > it existed after God..God created the first...create. >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > And then you have...'the heavens and the earth.' >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: news@netfront.net --- >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Starfaker you are babbling and drooling! The whole biblical creation >> >> >> > myth like all of the creation myths is an attempt to explain highly >> >> >> > advanced technical physics to primitive ignorant humans (even MORE >> >> >> > primitive and ignorant than they are today if you can imagine that!) >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Hence it used terms that really make no logical sense like saying >> >> >> > creation took place in six "days"? Sure you can understand a "day" on >> >> >> > earth and what it means but what is a "day" for the universe? Obviously >> >> >> > a "day" is trying to explain operations that took place in stages or >> >> >> > phases. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Native humans see things in causal form. Hence they want stories about >> >> >> > "beginnings" But if there was a beginning what was before that? Was >> >> >> > there a God? Defining God as the universe and all in it and the laws >> >> >> > that govern it allow you to say the laws might have been there but since >> >> >> > we are talking "creation" the universe wasn't and since "God" is the >> >> >> > universe then God must have not existed either unless it was there only >> >> >> > as laws. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Story is that "God" is outside of time. Therefore "creation" does not >> >> >> > apply. Creation applies only to causal phenomena that we are and >> >> >> > observe. Hence out efforts to ascribe a "creation" to God is basically >> >> >> > nonsense. God is the theater and projectionist (this is something you >> >> >> > can understand starfaker) it always existed and exists because they are >> >> >> > outside of time. Then just for US the the movie starts and we watch it >> >> >> > all take place in linear fashion. But in truth it all already exists >> >> >> > wound up in the reels of film on the projector. We just can't see the >> >> >> > part that isn't yet in the projector or the things that have already >> >> >> > gone through and are wound up on the other reel. But in truth all of our >> >> >> > "creation" is just ONE time. WE just cannot comprehend something >> >> >> > existing outside of time. So we make up stories. >> >> >> >> >> >> It's very simple, you need to undertsand the order of events.... >> >> >> >> >> >> it is God created, not created God. >> >> >> >> >> >> 'In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.' >> >> >> >> >> >> Maybe you people need to go back to school and learn the Inglish languagge... >> >> >> >> >> >> 'In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.' >> >> >> >> >> >> Look up the Defintion for the word: "In" >> >> >> >> >> >> then, >> >> >> >> >> >> Look up the Defintion for the word: "the" >> >> >> >> >> >> then >> >> >> >> >> >> Look up the Defintion for the word: "beginning" >> >> >> >> >> >> then >> >> >> >> >> >> Look up the Defintion for the word: (,) >> >> >> >> >> >> Now, try to understand what the word "In" means... >> >> >> >> >> >> and "the" >> >> >> >> >> >> and "beginning". >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >It is people like "benj", who make the mistake of assuming that >> >> > >> >> >'In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.' originated >> >> >from the bible... >> >> >> >> It doesn't matter. Whatever the source it is unverified. >> > >> > >> >My mistake, I meant to write: >> > >> > >> >'In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.' did not >> >originated >> >from the bible... >> >> It doesn't matter. The source whatever it is is not verified. > > >God does not stamp his name on things. You have yet to provide any evidence that any god ever existed. -- Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent. Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass. Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government guaranteed above average income for every person. Every illegal alien is a criminal. No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason. Deportation upon identification as the only option. If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly before you run into me.
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Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-05-03 23:04 +0000
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-04 16:00 -0500
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-05-05 19:50 +0000
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-07 07:45 -0500
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-05-07 16:15 +0200
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Jane <Jane@....> - 2016-05-08 06:51 +1000
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-05-08 00:24 +0000
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2016-05-08 00:25 -0400
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Don Martin <drdonmartin@comcast.net> - 2016-05-08 08:45 -0400
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2016-05-08 23:24 -0400
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Don Martin <drdonmartin@comcast.net> - 2016-05-09 18:14 -0400
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-05-10 15:47 -0700
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-11 14:02 -0500
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-11 14:01 -0500
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-07 14:39 -0700
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-05-08 00:25 +0000
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-07 17:33 -0700
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-05-07 17:02 +0000
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-11 14:02 -0500
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-05-12 00:31 +0000
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-12 08:22 -0500
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-05-12 18:50 +0000
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-13 17:20 -0500
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-05-14 02:27 +0000
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-15 16:05 -0500
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-05-16 22:14 +0000
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-17 06:38 -0500
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Mitchell Holman <noemail@comcast.net> - 2016-05-17 07:12 -0500
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-17 23:21 -0700
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-05-18 03:30 -0400
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-18 11:26 -0700
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-18 12:46 -0700
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-05-18 16:03 -0400
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-18 17:22 -0700
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-05-18 21:34 -0400
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-20 11:59 -0700
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-05-20 17:59 -0400
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-21 07:41 -0500
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-05-21 18:44 -0400
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-05-22 07:55 -0500
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-22 10:34 -0500
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-22 10:34 -0500
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-05-22 17:12 -0400
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-23 15:47 -0500
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-05-23 22:43 -0400
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-24 14:03 -0500
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-05-24 15:15 -0400
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-25 15:56 -0500
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-05-26 04:30 -0400
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-05-24 18:26 +0000
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-24 14:04 -0500
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-05-24 15:16 -0400
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-25 15:56 -0500
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-05-26 04:31 -0400
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-05-18 16:01 -0400
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-18 17:27 -0700
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-05-18 21:35 -0400
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-20 12:00 -0700
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-05-20 18:00 -0400
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-05-18 16:01 -0600
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-18 17:29 -0700
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-18 14:12 -0500
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Virgil <VIRGIL@VIRGIL.com> - 2016-05-18 16:08 -0600
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-05-18 18:40 -0400
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-19 16:33 -0500
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-05-19 17:34 -0400
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-19 16:21 -0500
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-05-18 03:45 -0400
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-18 14:13 -0500
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-05-18 16:05 -0400
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-19 16:34 -0500
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-05-20 00:59 -0400
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-18 12:49 -0700
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-05-18 16:06 -0400
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-20 11:57 -0700
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-05-20 18:01 -0400
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-19 16:35 -0500
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-05-20 01:00 -0400
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-20 12:15 -0500
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-05-20 18:02 -0400
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-21 07:42 -0500
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-05-21 18:45 -0400
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-05-22 07:58 -0500
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-22 10:35 -0500
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-22 10:35 -0500
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-05-22 17:14 -0400
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-23 15:48 -0500
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-05-23 22:45 -0400
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-24 14:04 -0500
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-05-24 15:17 -0400
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-25 15:58 -0500
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-05-26 04:29 -0400
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-05-18 15:44 +0000
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-18 14:08 -0500
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-05-18 16:08 -0400
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-05-18 15:38 -0500
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-19 16:37 -0500
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-19 16:36 -0500
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-05-20 01:02 -0400
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-05-18 15:57 -0600
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-19 16:37 -0500
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-05-17 16:39 +0000
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-05-08 00:21 +0000
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? John Locke <johnnydemon666@demonmail.com> - 2016-05-10 12:59 -0700
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-11 14:04 -0500
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-05-12 00:35 +0000
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? John Locke <johnnydemon666@demonmail.com> - 2016-05-14 18:04 -0700
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-15 16:14 -0500
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