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Re: Failures of the Galilean transformation

From Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Failures of the Galilean transformation
Date 2017-09-25 21:14 +0200
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Am 25.09.2017 um 11:07 schrieb mlwozniak@wp.pl:
>> >Possible questions are: what is actually time? Is matter for one
>> >observer also matter for all possible others? Is mass constant?
>> >
>> >
>> >(And so forth...)
>> >
>> >You make a statement about coordinates ('Coordinates are to be COMMON').
>> >
>> >But how do you justify this demand?
> And how do you justify the demand of making an axe
> of steel instead plasticine? A plasticine axe won't
> cut a tree? Right. And observer dependent coordinates
> are useless in observer-to-observer communication.
>

Usability is not a scientific requirement. The realm of usable things 
is, what engineer, designers and similar deal with.

Physics is (like most other sciences) not per se useful. Most scientific 
insights are quite useful, nevertheless. But we could investigate 
scientific problems, which we do not even dream about to take advantage of.

Communication between remote places in the universe is therefor not an 
issue for theoretical physics, but falls into the realm of technical 
problems.

Usually technical problems are solved by people, who have more technical 
experience than physicists or mathematicians have.

So interstellar communication is a problem, which falls into a practical 
realm and usually technicians deal with that.

Physicists could provide help in this process, even if it is not really 
their business.

Theoretical physics provides the scientific foundations for other 
sciences and technical developments.

So science tries to make statements, that are in an objective sense true 
(whether such insight is useful or not).

It is also questionable to provide theoretical foundations for practical 
purposes, that we do not have in reality. IOW interstellar communication 
requires interstellar flight and to the best of my knowledge we have not 
achieved this phase in human development.


TH

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  Failures of the Galilean transformation (was: The Song of Lt. Cdr. Data) "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-20 08:36 -0700
  Re: Failures of the Galilean transformation Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2017-09-21 15:10 +0200
    Re: Failures of the Galilean transformation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-09-21 06:29 -0700
      Re: Failures of the Galilean transformation Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2017-09-22 20:27 +0200
        Re: Failures of the Galilean transformation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-09-22 12:13 -0700
          Re: Failures of the Galilean transformation Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2017-09-22 21:36 +0200
            Re: Failures of the Galilean transformation Kos Etrakis <uar@ksskkwi.ck> - 2017-09-22 20:09 +0000
              Re: Failures of the Galilean transformation Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2017-09-23 12:10 +0200
            Re: Failures of the Galilean transformation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-09-22 13:30 -0700
              Re: Failures of the Galilean transformation Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2017-09-23 12:56 +0200
                Re: Failures of the Galilean transformation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-09-23 05:09 -0700
                Re: Failures of the Galilean transformation Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2017-09-24 21:31 +0200
                Re: Failures of the Galilean transformation Poutnik <poutnik@privacy.net> - 2017-09-24 21:43 +0200
                Re: Failures of the Galilean transformation Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2017-09-25 21:26 +0200
                Re: Failures of the Galilean transformation Poutnik <poutnik@privacy.net> - 2017-09-25 22:00 +0200
                Re: Failures of the Galilean transformation Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2017-09-26 21:45 +0200
                Re: Failures of the Galilean transformation Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-09-29 01:52 +0200
                Re: Failures of the Galilean transformation Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-09-27 09:50 +0200
                Re: Failures of the Galilean transformation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-09-24 22:57 -0700
                Re: Failures of the Galilean transformation Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2017-09-25 10:23 +0200
                Re: Failures of the Galilean transformation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-09-25 02:07 -0700
                Re: Failures of the Galilean transformation Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2017-09-25 21:14 +0200
                Re: Failures of the Galilean transformation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-09-25 13:10 -0700
                Re: Failures of the Galilean transformation Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2017-09-26 22:12 +0200
                Re: Failures of the Galilean transformation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-09-26 22:41 -0700
                Re: Failures of the Galilean transformation Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2017-09-28 21:09 +0200
                Re: Failures of the Galilean transformation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-09-28 13:14 -0700
                Re: Failures of the Galilean transformation Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2017-09-29 14:10 +0200
                Re: Failures of the Galilean transformation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-09-29 06:09 -0700
                Re: Failures of the Galilean transformation Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2017-09-30 16:39 +0200
                Re: Failures of the Galilean transformation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-09-30 08:12 -0700

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