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Re: [Link Posting] Systemd invasion into Linux Server space - RHEL 7 as Red Hat fiasco

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In comp.misc, Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote:
> systemd appears to have been partly motivated by an urge to make laptops
> boot faster, and it does in fact do so by better scheduling startup of
> processes during booth.  But this is a non-issue for 90% of systems.

I think it was more motivated by fast start-up of ephemeral VMs than
laptops, just laptops also benefitted. Certainly if you are trying to
respond to a sudden spike in demand by spinning up more cloud instances,
a long ass boot is not ideal.

> systemd goes against the traditional Unix philosophy of having small 
> programs that each do very specific things which are chained together to
> do more complex tasks.  It is a huge block of code that has to be taken
> as it is.  You can't remove the cron part and leave the startup part or
> vice-versa.  It's all there.

The scuttling of Unix small tool philosophy is indeed a great shame.

> No, not all distros are on the bandwagon, thank God.

And none of the BSDs.

Elijah
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also systemd crashing and then the computer won't shutdown is a bad failure

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[Link Posting] Systemd invasion into Linux Server space - RHEL 7 as Red Hat fiasco Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2019-05-01 16:43 +0000
  Re: [Link Posting] Systemd invasion into Linux Server space - RHEL 7 as Red Hat fiasco Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2019-05-01 20:16 +0300
    Re: [Link Posting] Systemd invasion into Linux Server space - RHEL 7 as Red Hat fiasco kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2019-05-01 17:37 -0400
      Re: [Link Posting] Systemd invasion into Linux Server space - RHEL 7 as Red Hat fiasco Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2019-05-01 22:57 +0000
        Re: [Link Posting] Systemd invasion into Linux Server space - RHEL 7 as Red Hat fiasco kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2019-05-04 15:43 -0400
          Re: [Link Posting] Systemd invasion into Linux Server space - RHEL 7 as Red Hat fiasco Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2019-05-07 01:00 +0000
      Re: [Link Posting] Systemd invasion into Linux Server space - RHEL 7 as Red Hat fiasco RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2019-05-01 21:08 -0400
        Re: [Link Posting] Systemd invasion into Linux Server space - RHEL 7 as Red Hat fiasco arnold@skeeve.com (Aharon Robbins) - 2019-05-02 10:01 +0000
          Re: [Link Posting] Systemd invasion into Linux Server space - RHEL 7 as Red Hat fiasco Steve555 <Steve555@reallybogus.nodomain.nowhere.invalid> - 2019-06-19 16:26 +0000
        Re: [Link Posting] Systemd invasion into Linux Server space - RHEL 7 as Red Hat fiasco Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2019-05-02 15:56 +0000
          Re: [Link Posting] Systemd invasion into Linux Server space - RHEL 7 as Red Hat fiasco RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2019-05-02 20:49 -0400
            Re: [Link Posting] Systemd invasion into Linux Server space - RHEL 7 as Red Hat fiasco Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2019-05-03 15:51 +0000
            Re: [Link Posting] Systemd invasion into Linux Server space - RHEL 7 as Red Hat fiasco Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2019-05-03 10:14 +0300
        Re: [Link Posting] Systemd invasion into Linux Server space - RHEL 7 as Red Hat fiasco Jerry Peters <jerry@example.invalid> - 2019-05-02 20:19 +0000
          Re: [Link Posting] Systemd invasion into Linux Server space - RHEL 7 as Red Hat fiasco RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2019-05-02 20:50 -0400
            Re: [Link Posting] Systemd invasion into Linux Server space - RHEL 7 as Red Hat fiasco ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2019-05-03 23:16 -0500
          Re: [Link Posting] Systemd invasion into Linux Server space - RHEL 7 as Red Hat fiasco Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2019-05-03 08:16 +0100
  Re: [Link Posting] Systemd invasion into Linux Server space - RHEL 7 as Red Hat fiasco Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2019-05-01 13:59 -0400
    Re: [Link Posting] Systemd invasion into Linux Server space - RHEL 7 as Red Hat fiasco Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2019-05-01 18:23 +0000
      Re: [Link Posting] Systemd invasion into Linux Server space - RHEL 7 as Red Hat fiasco Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2019-05-01 17:14 -0400
  Re: [Link Posting] Systemd invasion into Linux Server space - RHEL 7 as Red Hat fiasco RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2019-05-01 15:55 -0400
    Re: [Link Posting] Systemd invasion into Linux Server space - RHEL 7 as Red Hat fiasco Jerry Peters <jerry@example.invalid> - 2019-05-01 20:28 +0000
      Re: [Link Posting] Systemd invasion into Linux Server space - RHEL 7 as Red Hat fiasco Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2019-05-01 21:49 -0300
      Re: [Link Posting] Systemd invasion into Linux Server space - RHEL 7 as Red Hat fiasco Steve555 <Steve555@bogus.nodomain.nowhere.invalid> - 2019-06-15 19:55 +0000
        Re: [Link Posting] Systemd invasion into Linux Server space - RHEL 7 as Red Hat fiasco scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us (Scott Alfter) - 2019-06-17 16:49 +0000
          Re: [Link Posting] Systemd invasion into Linux Server space - RHEL 7 as Red Hat fiasco Steve555 <Steve555@reallybogus.nodomain.nowhere.invalid> - 2019-06-19 16:43 +0000
            Re: [Link Posting] Systemd invasion into Linux Server space - RHEL 7 as Red Hat fiasco Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2019-06-19 20:17 +0000
    Re: [Link Posting] Systemd invasion into Linux Server space - RHEL 7 as Red Hat fiasco Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2019-05-01 21:18 +0000
    Re: [Link Posting] Systemd invasion into Linux Server space - RHEL 7 as Red Hat fiasco not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2019-05-02 23:31 +0000

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