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Re: Calculating G

From Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Calculating G
Date 2016-12-30 22:35 +1100
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On 30/12/2016 10:13 PM, Dirk Van de moortel wrote:
> Op 30-dec-2016 om 07:22 schreef Peter Riedt:
>> On Friday, December 30, 2016 at 11:03:06 AM UTC+8, Gary Harnagel wrote:
>>> On Thursday, December 29, 2016 at 6:31:08 PM UTC-7, Peter Riedt wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Calculating G
>>>>
>>>> The constant G was anticipated by Newton but first accurately
>>>> determined in
>>>> the laboratory by Henry Cavendish in 1798. It has the value
>>>> G=6.674E-11m3kg−1s−2 (cubic meters per kilogram second squared).
>>>>
>>>> G can be derived from elements of a star by the formula
>>>> G=gstar*rstar^2/Mstar
>>>>
>>>>       gstar       rstar       Mstar        G
>>>> Sun     273.97    696,000,000     1.99E+30    6.674E-11
>>>> ACa     200.18    853,992,000     2.19E+30    6.674E-11
>>>> ACb     332.10    602,040,000     1.80E+30    6.674E-11
>>>> AC c    1695.00     98,136,000     2.45E+29    6.674E-11
>>>>
>>>> gstar = surface acceleration in m/sec
>>>> rstar = radius in m
>>>> Mstar = mass in kg
>>>
>>> SO how was g determined for each of these stars?
>>>
>>>> G can also be derived from g, radius and mass of the planets by the
>>>> formula
>>>> G=gpl*rpl^2/mpl
>>>>
>>>>       gpl       rpl(m)        mpl        G
>>>> MER      3.71     2,439,000    3.30E+23    6.674E-11
>>>> VEN      8.87     6,051,602    4.87E+24    6.674E-11
>>>> EAR      9.80     6,378,621    5.97E+24    6.674E-11
>>>> MAR      3.71     3,397,360    6.42E+23    6.674E-11
>>>> JUP     24.79    71,499,344    1.90E+27    6.674E-11
>>>> SAT     10.44    60,273,223    5.68E+26    6.674E-11
>>>> URA      8.87    25,556,472    8.68E+25    6.674E-11
>>>> NEP     11.15    24,765,365    1.02E+26    6.674E-11
>>>> PLU      0.62     1,158,753    1.25E+22    6.674E-11
>>>>
>>>> gpl = surface acceleration of a planet
>>>> rpl = radius of a planet
>>>> mpl = mass of a planet
>>>>
>>>> The calculated G numbers of the Sun, Alpha Centauri A, B and C and nine
>>>> planets are identical with the Codata value of G=6.674E-11.
>
> And you went to visit these planets to measure the gpl-values, right.
>
>>>
>>> That's probably because G was used to determine g :-)
>>
>> Alpha Centauri A B C have their g values on the Internet in the form
>> log g.
>
> And the Internet went there to measure them, right.
>
> Dirk Vdm

Peter persists with these circular analyses despite the issue being 
raised with him repeatedly. He seems to be yet another poster with some 
disorder of the mind that muddles their thinking.

Sylvia.

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Re: Calculating G Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-29 19:02 -0800
  Re: Calculating G Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-12-29 22:22 -0800
    Re: Calculating G Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2016-12-30 12:13 +0100
      Re: Calculating G Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-30 22:35 +1100
        Re: Calculating G Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2016-12-30 13:03 +0100
          Re: Calculating G mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-30 04:11 -0800
        Re: Calculating G Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-12-30 14:32 -0800
          Re: Calculating G Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-30 15:17 -0800
            Re: Calculating G Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-12-30 16:51 -0800
              Re: Calculating G Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-31 12:48 +1100
                Re: Calculating G Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-12-30 19:31 -0800
                Re: Calculating G Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-31 14:36 +1100
                Re: Calculating G Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-12-30 23:15 -0800
                Re: Calculating G Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-31 19:29 +1100
                Re: Calculating G Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-12-31 01:18 -0800
                Re: Calculating G Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-31 20:29 +1100
                Re: Calculating G Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-12-31 19:06 -0800
                Re: Calculating G Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2016-12-30 21:33 -0800
              Re: Calculating G Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-30 19:41 -0800
                Re: Calculating G Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-12-30 23:17 -0800

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